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J Soul
06-15-2005, 09:04 AM
Michael Jackson may have escaped a jail sentence in his child-molestation trial, but with the taint of the allegations overshadowing his musical legacy, is it possible for the self-proclaimed King of Pop to get his music career back on track?

Beyond putting the trial behind him, Jackson has a long road ahead if he hopes to rehabilitate an image that has been sullied by the trial and more than a decade of declining musical fortunes combined with a blizzard of headlines focused on his bizarre looks, financial troubles and extravagant spending. The singer has a long way to go before he can bring the focus back to his musical talent. We talked to a panel of experts who came up with a (sometimes contradictory) eight-point plan for Jackson's career resuscitation:


Just Go Away
Jonathan Bernstein of Los Angeles' Bernstein Crisis Management suggests Jackson just disappear for a while and come back humble. For example, Bill Clinton stepped out of the limelight for a year after leaving office to let people forget about the Lewinsky scandal. Bernstein thinks Jackson should do the same, and when he comes back, "be humble and admit that you've made mistakes." And be specific. Tell us you thought that it was OK to share your bed with unrelated, underage children, but you've since decided that it's not. "Even if he feels he's completely innocent," said Bernstein, "he needs to understand the society he lives in does not agree that it's OK for an adult male to share a bed with an unrelated child. If he continues to try and defend that position, he's not going to be able to make it."


Think Small
Chances are that stadium tours are HIStory. Pollstar editor in chief Gary Bongiovanni says it might be time to take it back to a grass-roots level with a scaled-down, bare-bones tour. "If he thinks he's going to go out and headline football stadiums in America, that's not in the cards at the moment unless he has a huge hit record," Bongiovanni said. "His day as a huge headliner who can call his own shots are gone. If he went out and played smaller theaters like what Springsteen did, ones where he can make sure he sells them out and turns people away, that would help. But if he tries to do a big production and sell out stadiums, he'll fall on his face."


Look To The East
Jackson's touring career has been in the dumps in the U.S. for more than a decade, but he's still a huge draw in Asia, and overseas audiences are likely to be more forgiving. He should begin a comeback where he's still considered a huge star and let his fans do the talking and show the world he still has it. "[With an acquittal] there's still a sizeable population here that will think he's guilty," said Bongiovanni. "But overseas, the demand is still very strong."


Get On The Radio
Guilty or not, if Jackson is to mount a comeback, he needs to ditch the $40 million album-recording budgets and just get in the studio and chop out at least one hit single. "He would have to make a great album that people just had to hear," said Billboard charts editor Geoff Mayfield. "Which hasn't happened since about 1987. [That] happens to a lot of veterans [after a huge album], they kind of lose a bit of confidence." Mayfield said that if Jackson came up with a slam-dunk hit, radio programmers would give it a listen just because of his track record. Ebro Darden, program director for New York urban station Hot 97 agreed, saying, "If he put out a hit record, a record that people were moving to in the clubs and DJs were having a good time with it, I think people will play it."


Hot Tracks, Hot Producers
If Jackson really wants to get his groove back, he needs to cherry pick some tracks from contemporary hitmakers like the Neptunes and pack the album with more than one good song. Producers Dre & Vidal (Andre Harris and Vidal Davis), who've worked with everyone from Alicia Keys and Justin Timberlake to Destiny's Child and Usher, helped Jackson score one of his rare recent hits with 2001's "Butterflies." The pair said people will want to hear Jackson's music regardless of their personal take on the trial ... and they're happy to lend a hand. "First of all, he would need to get in the studio," said Vidal. "And I can't wait to work with him again. I think he needs to work with us, of course, and cats like Rich Harrison (Amerie), Bobby and Izzy Avila (Usher), Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis."


On The Other Hand ...
Instead of trying to be contemporary, perhaps Jackson should revisit the lean, funky style that made him a star in the first place. "The average kid on the street, they're not gonna want to go out and buy a new Michael Jackson album, because he's lost his relevance," said Vibe editor Serena Kim. The reason he's lost it is because he's tried to keep up with the times by hiring producers like Rodney Jerkins and collaborating with hip-hop artists like Jay-Z ("You Rock My World" remix). Forget all that. "Those things are just half-assed attempts at being current or being youthful," Kim said. "I think his best thing would be to maybe go back and ... re-create himself like how Rick Rubin did with like Johnny Cash and Neil Diamond. Just something totally different."


Hi, My Name Is Michael
Today's younger fans don't know who you are. And if they do, it's only as that freaky dude on Court TV. "Michael Jackson songs are classics for a reason," said New York Times music critic Kalefah Sanneh. "They are classics because they always work and they still work ... in the club or in your bedroom or on the radio or whatever. But I think there's a weird kind of disconnect between the weird dude you see on TV and the songs you hear in the club. And I think the challenge for someone like Michael Jackson is to try and bring those two things together." The good news is that Jackson has all those classic songs to fall back on, so as long as he figures out a way to make his songs fit in the current pop landscape without sounding like he's trying too hard, Sanneh said, he should be able to overcome his negative image with young fans.


Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough
Be aggressive. Sanneh said Jackson's recent albums have featured loud beats over his quiet voice, which reinforces the notion that he's not strong enough to overcome whatever difficulties are dogging him at that time. Jackson's best move is to get hit his swagger back. "A lot of it comes down to coming back out and saying, 'Forget about all that, I'm still me,' " said Sanneh. "You have to come back [and say], 'I've still got songs, I'm still singing, forget about all that other stuff.' "

ZorCrow
06-15-2005, 05:58 PM
How about he stop molesting little boys J Soul? That would help him, he needs to admit his gay (since no straight male owns gay MALE porn) and get him a male lover like Eric Benet, Halle BErry's old husband, he's homosexual errrrrrrr biseuxal, and he would be good with Mike Jackson. Or he can marry another woman . . .

Not Guilty doesn' t mean "innocent' folks. O.J. Simpson, the Cops who beat Rodney King, and the folks who killed Emmet Till (later they admitted it and laughed), were all found not guilty. How many of them were innocent? Mike Jackson will get his one day. . .

DonDaddyD
06-16-2005, 07:03 AM
I would like to say that I believe Michael Jackson to be very much innocent without going into the fine details of his sexuality whether he is homosexual, bisexual, straight or even Asexual I think the obvious is clearly overlooked.



I think that truly this guy is the best example of how fame can ultimately destroy a life as well as showing how desperate we can be when refusing to let it go. Jackson had no childhood and had a father who drained as much money out of his soul as he could. It is no secret that Michael was afraid of his father and though we don't know the extent of the relationship between the two it is easy to say that how MJ perceived it clearly left him with psychological issues. The whole plastic surgery, changing the colour of his skin wasn't medical it was so that he could escape his father's image.



Here we have a man with deep rooted psychological issues due to being stripped of his childhood, the end result being that he never wants to grow up and he considers himself peter pan. I'm not talking about a 40 year old trying to reclaim their 20's MJ wants to be 10 yrs old and has the finance to make his every dream possible and we condemn him for it. If he is mentally unstable and never really developed past the age of 10 then I think it is unfair to consider him as having a sexual orientation as mentally he is still within the innocent stage of life. So I think to him a sleepover isn’t a 12yr old sleeping with a 45yr old man, it is more like a 12yr old sleeping with a 10yr old in a mans body.



As for his comeback he could re-release all his classics or all his albums (Up until Bad and Invincible) and all the songs he owns the ‘rights’ to and as me and my Mum was saying to my Father it’ll be hard for him to reach the heights his 40yrs in the industry had granted him. But some people don’t discriminate through music and if he drops a ‘phat’ tune then people will by it. I certainly will!

J Soul
06-16-2005, 11:39 AM
How about he stop molesting little boys J Soul? That would help him, he needs to admit his gay (since no straight male owns gay MALE porn) and get him a male lover like Eric Benet, Halle BErry's old husband, he's homosexual errrrrrrr biseuxal, and he would be good with Mike Jackson. Or he can marry another woman . . .

Not Guilty doesn' t mean "innocent' folks. O.J. Simpson, the Cops who beat Rodney King, and the folks who killed Emmet Till (later they admitted it and laughed), were all found not guilty. How many of them were innocent? Mike Jackson will get his one day. . .

I could care less if Michael Jackson is gay, straight, bisexual, trisexual, bi-lateral, bilingual...doesn't matter to me. The man is an entertainment icon and I have been a fan since I was a child. What he does in his personal life does not change my opinion of the impact he's had on the music industry.

And of course, I know "not guilty" doesn't mean innocent. It means that no one was able to prove that you did what you were being accused of. So what does "not guilty" really mean? It means "they couldn't prove he did anything wrong and since he can't be re-tried, everyone who thought he was guilty needs to shut the hell up and move on with their lives." ;)

Jill Monroe
06-17-2005, 12:42 AM
entertainment icon or not...he let his "personal life" over shadow his musical talents. one of the things i noticed in the initial post of this thread is that "kids of today dont know who michael jackson is"...and since most marketing ploys are targeted at a the young demographic (typically ages 13-25) THEY are the ones who will help drive michael's music sales now more than ever.

Prince made a tremendous comeback in 2004, Madonna STILL commands sold out venues around the world and sets ticket sales records. She had the highest grossing tour revenue of 2004 and has an album on the way. Mariah Carey has made a long anticipated come back. People are waiting on Janet to make her come back (though i really feel she got way too much flack for "nipple gate"..it WASNT that big a deal imo). Come back or not...It seems unlikely that Michael ever be what he was in 1982 with Thriller...its not likely that will EVER happen again. The music industry has changed (and not for the better), and how is ANYONE going to take any love songs about women that he makes SERIOUSLY? LOOK AT HIM..he's FREAKISH in appearence...talented or not...and he has NO sex appeal what so ever. I bought a copy of and listened to his last album Invincible right when it came out...you could HEAR him straining to reach high notes on songs like "heaven can wait" ...he clearly lost his vocal strength...and while some tracks such as "Butterflies" were beautifully done..like i said before..who in the hell is going to believe he's singing about a girl? :haha:

Michael Jackson is one of a america's musical treasures..no doubt about it..but someone shouldve stopped him from chopping up his face and letting all these bizarre "antics" of his overshadow his music career. He's got a LONG , HARD journey ahead of him if he's going to mount any kind of come back...and i think people need to realize that his "ground breaking" days in the 80's are not going to be as revered by TODAY's generation as they are by people in my age group and those who are older than me.

ZorCrow
06-17-2005, 06:04 AM
Please, Mike Jackson's record Sales in America have slipped, Mike Jackson is done in America. He's a child molesting wacko and that's being kind to him. I can't believe you people that's right who EXCUSE man molesting little boys. You think that's right?

It reminds me of the Mob Boss John Gotti who kept getting acquitted over and over and over again, and all his folks dancing and singing, until Sammy the Bull turned rat and that was it for Gotti.

When will folks in America stop worshipping idiot celebrites? You have Madonna who has polluted America with her whoredoms and makes millions, millions off of it.
Then you have Mike Jackson who molests kids and so many of us fans are dancing in the street like they just won the lottery.

I wonder if he molested their children if they would dance in the street . . . probably would.

J Soul
06-17-2005, 08:47 AM
Please, Mike Jackson's record Sales in America have slipped, Mike Jackson is done in America. He's a child molesting wacko and that's being kind to him. I can't believe you people that's right who EXCUSE man molesting little boys. You think that's right?

It reminds me of the Mob Boss John Gotti who kept getting acquitted over and over and over again, and all his folks dancing and singing, until Sammy the Bull turned rat and that was it for Gotti.

When will folks in America stop worshipping idiot celebrites? You have Madonna who has polluted America with her whoredoms and makes millions, millions off of it.
Then you have Mike Jackson who molests kids and so many of us fans are dancing in the street like they just won the lottery.

I wonder if he molested their children if they would dance in the street . . . probably would.

I do agree with that particular statement. I give her props for everything she's done and what she's accomplished in her career, but honestly...she can't sing very well. :D And she wouldn't be where she is today if she wouldn't have gone through her little "whore" phase. Now, help me out here...was the whore phase before or after the "Henna tattoo/Frozen" phase? I get all of her different "transformations" confused. :p

Jill Monroe
06-17-2005, 02:10 PM
I do agree with that particular statement. I give her props for everything she's done and what she's accomplished in her career, but honestly...she can't sing very well. :D And she wouldn't be where she is today if she wouldn't have gone through her little "whore" phase. Now, help me out here...was the whore phase before or after the "Henna tattoo/Frozen" phase? I get all of her different "transformations" confused. :p

blah blah blah.. word vomit word vomit. Zorcrow..take your anal retentive, hypocritical hyper religious tendencies somewhere else. and JSoul...im glad you find it cute to co sign on everything that demeans women. if your going to demean one entertainer for using sexuality to advantage..at least she did it with CONSENTING ADULTS unlike that slimey alien, wig and rouge wearing freak of nature michael jackson.

im closing this thread now.

J Soul
06-17-2005, 05:08 PM
blah blah blah.. word vomit word vomit. Zorcrow..take your anal retentive, hypocritical hyper religious tendencies somewhere else. and JSoul...im glad you find it cute to co sign on everything that demeans women. if your going to demean one entertainer for using sexuality to advantage..at least she did it with CONSENTING ADULTS unlike that slimey alien, wig and rouge wearing freak of nature michael jackson.

im closing this thread now.

First off, I never co-signed on demeaning a woman. I cosigned on demeaning MADONNA. Last I checked, Madonna is not EVERY WOMAN. She may be EVERY WOMAN to you, but she's not EVERY WOMAN in the world. Get it right.

Secondly, why close a thread and get angry just because someone made a negative comment about an entertainer that you happen to love and admire? I remember an administrator of a message board that I used to belong to a while ago who used to ban people because they went against his opinion. Please don't tell me that this board is like that as well. I would hate to relive my "Trag" days. :igitt:

Jill Monroe
06-17-2005, 05:43 PM
First off, I never co-signed on demeaning a woman. I cosigned on demeaning MADONNA. Last I checked, Madonna is not EVERY WOMAN. She may be EVERY WOMAN to you, but she's not EVERY WOMAN in the world. Get it right.

Secondly, why close a thread and get angry just because someone made a negative comment about an entertainer that you happen to love and admire? I remember an administrator of a message board that I used to belong to a while ago who used to ban people because they went against his opinion. Please don't tell me that this board is like that as well. I would hate to relive my "Trag" days. :igitt:

a word to the wise. when an ADMINISTRATOR closes a thread..DO NOT attempt to reopen it. this conversation is CLOSED and it better stay that way. thank you.