Wild Weather around North America

[Jill Monroe]

Snow in Hawaii, torrential rain storms, ICE storms and mudslides in California, 50, 60 even 70 to 80 degree weather in the mid west and east coast...during the WINTER!:worry:

following the massive earthquake that triggered the Tsunami in the Indian Ocean, it has been confirmed that the earth has actually become more compact and now rotates FASTER on its axis....do you think that the wild weather patterns that have been occurring around the US and other parts of the world are related to this major disaster of the earthquake?

are we about to experience our own version of "the day after tommorow"?:eek:


(or is it all Heather's fault as usual?:rolleyes: :p lol)

[Tempest]

LoL, well for the past couple of years, numbers and crap have been going around that because of all the plate settings, California is actually going to snap away from the US. Don't know how true that much is, but after this tsunami it's looking quite possible in the future sometime.

It's weird, but I dont know how the tectonic plates would make the axis go faster or affect weather but hey, nothing ever really makes sense now does it? lol

[Jill Monroe]

well..in terms of geology and the history of the earth if you read enough info..it can make alot of sense and help provide an idea of where things might go. this planet is FAR from "tamed" by man. POLLUTED yes, ABUSED yes..but far from tamed. I think nature is finally getting fed up and she's reminding us just who has the power. things like that Tsunami serve as a hard hitting lesson in humility and a reminder as to how much we dont know about the earth and the power it posseses.

scientists, geologists, etc have been saying that California will either break in half with one half being submerged by the ocean or that the entire state will seperate from the north american continent....and California is a hell of a lot closer to the indian ocean than we over here in the east are. I am no scientist so i dont know EXACTLY what will happen (and neither do they to be honest) BUT the history of the earth tells us that the seven continents began is ONE super continent and that was millions upon millions of years ago.....i would be interested to know what kind of time table the geologists give california before its "seperation" from north america.

[Foxfire]

Oh don't be such a hater you 24/7 harlot. :fdevil: :rolleyes: If I recall, it was YOU and you're big ass over there when you bent over, the full eclipse happened, causing all these disasters. :D

I too have related all these disasters to the movie you spoke of in your previous post. I wonder if the world comes to an end like many scholars and even sacred religious items theorized. :confused:

[Jacob Black]

I was talking to my Mother about the whole California thing, since I am a Cali Native and she said that when she was young, her mom was telling her that California was going to become it's own island..

This doesn't make sense to me.. you would think like Florida would drift off before California... and I always thought that new matter was rising out of the Ocean. Like Hawaii in around 200 or 300 years will have about 2 more new islands.

I have experienced the weird weather myself lately. I live in Carson City, NV, and it DOES snow there, but we only get not even an inch and it melts the next day.. For about the past two weeks, we have gotten snow.. Almost 2 feet, and it is melting now, but it is still freezing outside. It is getting crazy.

If the Earth is spinning faster now, does that mean that time goes by faster, and we are actually like a minute behind in our time?

[Dapper Dan]

I was talking to my Mother about the whole California thing, since I am a Cali Native and she said that when she was young, her mom was telling her that California was going to become it's own island..

This doesn't make sense to me.. you would think like Florida would drift off before California... and I always thought that new matter was rising out of the Ocean. Like Hawaii in around 200 or 300 years will have about 2 more new islands.

I think the San Andres fault is the main principle behind this theory. I've always heard myself of the big earthquake that will one day break off Cali and make it become an island. Come to think of it didn't that happen in some disaster movie semi-recently?

Frankly the strange weater has me totally freaked out! It's absolutely insane and right down scary. I'm not really much of a Bible guy, but having been raised up in the church I know a bit about it... the Bible itself speaks of eventually people not being able to tell one season from another. Where you may ask? Well where else, Revelation... :(

I hope that all the freaky happenings are just an immediate reaction to the quake and its effects... perhaps the earth will be able to straighten itself out given a little bit of time...

[Tempest]

It might as well be one, we have such a diverse population and our own rules anyways, this entire state completely hates bush and all the stupid rules he's made, now we can make our own stuff Haha.

Hadn't heard about that Dan, very strange. We've stopped getting a lot of rain since last year...it was like there was no spring, just went straight from winter to summer, twas odd. There's still all those predictions according to the mayan calender, I forget the apocalyptic year, 2008 wasn't it?

Let's hope so Dan x.x

[MorningStar]

We could very well be heading towards 'the day after tomorrow' but not anywhere near the scale the movie depicts it as. Its virtually impossible for the global CLIMATE to change so quickly. Freak weather patterns, yep, storms, yep, but the world's entire climate cannot possibly change so quickly. The geography of the movie is at fault, also; it describes massive storms forming over large land masses. Storms of that type particularly cannot form over land masses so large and dry.

Also, it would require our polar ice caps to melt at a much faster rate. Cold, freshwater from the ice forces the WARM salty water below it. The warm current would be deflected away from places such as the UK, giving it a climate like Alaska or something along those lines, probably cooling Canada and the northern states of america... but the sahara desert would be likely to expand to, into Spain... Basically, everything would just go to extremes. But that's not gonna happen all at once, like in just one year... but over time, however short...

But, let me put it into perspective. By 2100, global average surface temperature could be anywhere between 1.4 and 5.8 degrees higher. We better pray to whatever gods we believe in that its NOT the latter - a rise of 4 degrees caused the last major ice age 14 thousand years ago. Theoretically, the earth within a few human generations could be hotter than at any time during the last 50 million years...which in turn will probably increase the rate of species extinction...

Humans haven't tamed the earth, oh hell no... we've given mother nature the ammunition to be more 'violent' than ever before, so to speak...

You guys will have to excuse me LOL. I can be very passionate about the idea of climate change and the destruction of unique ecosystems... I could live, eat, sleep and breathe meteorology, too.

As fr the time thing... that's an interesting question. I think it depends on how much faster the earth is spinning now... it could be such a negligible amount that it doesn't need to even be thought about, I guess...

*Edited to add: On the topic of freak weather systems, I'm quite excited! I do believe that two days ago I bore witness to ball lightning which dissipated upon contact with the road surface near me. ball lightning is a rare enough occurance already, but to see it near me - privilage!

[Lauren Collins]

Seriously... We really are headed towards The Day After Tomorrow. If you go to the official website and choose UK, there are 2 sections, called "The Present: Here and Now" and "The Future: <something>". They give a bunch of weather facts that are truly scary. There's also a section called, "Wild Weather" or something, that has even more stories.

They're truly frightening, I must say. Especially the whole tsunami thing. How one earthquake can cause such destruction. It's insane.

[Jill Monroe]

We could very well be heading towards 'the day after tomorrow' but not anywhere near the scale the movie depicts it as. Its virtually impossible for the global CLIMATE to change so quickly. Freak weather patterns, yep, storms, yep, but the world's entire climate cannot possibly change so quickly. The geography of the movie is at fault, also; it describes massive storms forming over large land masses. Storms of that type particularly cannot form over land masses so large and dry.

Also, it would require our polar ice caps to melt at a much faster rate. Cold, freshwater from the ice forces the WARM salty water below it. The warm current would be deflected away from places such as the UK, giving it a climate like Alaska or something along those lines, probably cooling Canada and the northern states of america... but the sahara desert would be likely to expand to, into Spain... Basically, everything would just go to extremes. But that's not gonna happen all at once, like in just one year... but over time, however short...

But, let me put it into perspective. By 2100, global average surface temperature could be anywhere between 1.4 and 5.8 degrees higher. We better pray to whatever gods we believe in that its NOT the latter - a rise of 4 degrees caused the last major ice age 14 thousand years ago. Theoretically, the earth within a few human generations could be hotter than at any time during the last 50 million years...which in turn will probably increase the rate of species extinction...

Humans haven't tamed the earth, oh hell no... we've given mother nature the ammunition to be more 'violent' than ever before, so to speak...

You guys will have to excuse me LOL. I can be very passionate about the idea of climate change and the destruction of unique ecosystems... I could live, eat, sleep and breathe meteorology, too.

As fr the time thing... that's an interesting question. I think it depends on how much faster the earth is spinning now... it could be such a negligible amount that it doesn't need to even be thought about, I guess...

*Edited to add: On the topic of freak weather systems, I'm quite excited! I do believe that two days ago I bore witness to ball lightning which dissipated upon contact with the road surface near me. ball lightning is a rare enough occurance already, but to see it near me - privilage!

in regards to the "temporal changes" the geologists, scientists and other officials who were reporting on the issue of the earth now rotating faster on its axis have said that the increase in the speed was CUMMILATIVELY about 3 seconds...but that its over all effect on us or our environment was VERY negligible so your right, Serenity.

i think having access to more of the facts and figures (I visited the NAOA recently to get a better understanding of ocean currents, wind belts etc) is something EVERYONE needs to become interested in. Time keeps moving no matter what...and there's a cause and effect for everything. Meteorology and all other sciences aside.....humans have really taken this planet to task for centuries...and although we only populate 1 percent of its total surface and we've only successfully charted about 1 percent of the earth's totall ocean mass...the enviroment is obviously reeling from the abuse that has been heaped upon it.

humans have gone through a supply of fossil fuel in a FRACTION of the time that it took to create that source of energy that we so desperately depend on (and if you think we dont...then why are we in Iraq right now?:rolleyes: ), the drive to use technology and depend on it has really shifted humans from the agricultural focus that we once had many years ago.....and respect of nature NOW seems to be something we only have when events like the earth quake and tsunami of the indian ocean occurr.

time doesnt stand still...and before you know it..the time frame that Serenity gave in some of her projections will be here...and what will people do then i wonder. most of US probably wont be here by that time..but still its a good question to ponder.

[ZorCrow]

We got 11 inches today where I Live. I spent around 2 hours shoveling snow. It's still blowing back into the driveway and sidewalk though. But I heard some places East like NYC, Boston, and Philly are getting 18inches to 3 feet of snow.