Shannen Doherty vs. Alyssa Milano [Archive]

Jill Monroe

02-11-2005, 01:20 AM

okay....i think its pretty obvious who the better actress is. lets review a few movies done by each of them.

Shannen Doherty:

The Rendering: very suspensfull and edgy. she had a very stylish appearence in this movie as well.

Another Day: another dark, complex movie with a very interesting plot.

The Battle of Mary Kay: who knew Shannen could have such fun playing a character like this without even TRYING to be funny?

Satan's School for Girls(2000): a nice remake of the Aaron Spelling classic (produce by Aaron himself). Shannen's role was rather similar to that of her character Prue Halliwell...but the movie was still a fun indulgence.

now then..Alyssa Milano:

Poison Ivy 2: the sequel was rather pointless since the main character of the original movie DIED...and no one from the original movie returned for the sequel...

Embrace the Vampire: straight up GARBAGE....might as well have been soft core porn

Fear: the only DECENT movie she was ever in (imho)...her character was rather one dimensional...but still provided strong support to Reese Witherspoon.

.........oh wait...thats all she's done! oops...guess there's nothing left to say on THAT lol

Alyssa Milano is an actress who really got over on the fact that she was a child star of the 80's...and people were intrigued by her return to TV in Melrose Place. She wasnt even FIRST CHOICE casting on Charmed...and yet now a days..the show's last few seasons have been so "phoebe" centric...that many viewers have jumped ship..including me :rolleyes: When charmed was first created....the role of Prue was MADE for Shannen..it gave her a chance to dispell the "bad girl" image she had cemented on 90210 and in her own life off screen. Shannen's acting skills were evident and even Holly Marie Combs said that she gave 110 percent performance.

Prue had the best powers, the best look of the sisters in terms of style and wardrobe and she was the leader of the sisters who spurred them to ACTION..instead of REACTION...which is what the current group of sisters does best. They now spend their time screaming, getting thrown into walls, and running around tables from demons...depending on spells and potions rather than their own powers. Piper, who is now the OLDEST , often takes a backseat to PHOEBE..what kind of shit is that? and its obvious that since Phoebe lacks in "power" the other two sister's have been "dumbed down" so as not to outshine her. when PRUE was there...the sisters were fast, quick thinking and confident in the use of their powers.

there's DEFINATELY no contest here....Shannen/Prue Halliwell was/IS the best Halliwell there was.

Dapper Dan

02-11-2005, 01:51 AM

Prue had the best powers, the best look of the sisters in terms of style and wardrobe and she was the leader of the sisters who spurred them to ACTION..

Mia and I were discussing this the other night.... if Prue was still on the show can you imagine how powerful that woman would be!? Look how powerful she was in season 3 when she left, I wonder what would have come with 4 more years on the show...

Alyssa is h o t, but I definately think Shannen Doherty is/was the better actress. Although I have to say I have seen the unaired pilot episode, the one shot with Lori Rom instead of Alyssa and it sucked! Alyssa is definately the better 'Phoebe' of the two.

Jacob Black

02-11-2005, 01:53 AM

I hate to say it though.. I don't think the show would have lasted this long if Prue HAD stayed because I mean, what would they have done?

Paige I feel is the only reason the show is still on..

Jill Monroe

02-11-2005, 11:49 AM

I hate to say it though.. I don't think the show would have lasted this long if Prue HAD stayed because I mean, what would they have done?

Paige I feel is the only reason the show is still on..

of course the show wouldve lasted if perhaps PHOEBE had died instead of Prue. Paige would still be the youngest sister, and the power of three would be very much in tact and with Prue leading...they wouldve definately had an edge when it came to destroying Cole. Unlike Phoebe, Prue NEVER betrayed her sisters in the name of love for a man...she didnt willingly give in to evil time and again as Phoebe did both in past, present and future lives (various episodes). With Prue...it would NOT have taken two seasons for the sisters to finally destroy Cole..because for one thing, PHOEBE wouldnt have been constantly in the way, becoming a liability to the sisters as she was taken over by Cole's evil, the pregnancy etc...and the sisters wouldnt have been so hesitant to NOT destroy him after season 3 because Prue KNEW him for the evil that he was..."love for phoebe" or not...she saw him for the monster that he was.

and the show would not have devolved into "phoebe and cole's drama" ..the shitty mess that it was for season 4 and most of season 5.

Jacob Black

02-11-2005, 12:05 PM

But what power would Paige have had? She is part whitelighter so how would they work in her seeing the Future?

Jill Monroe

02-11-2005, 01:56 PM

what difference would it make? Paige still couldve been a white lighter with "teleorbing" abilities. she's basically nothing more than the "team teleporter" anyway. Paige is definately a more responsible witch than phoebe ever was when SHE was the "youngest".

The sisters wouldve been far more capable with Prue at the helm, along with Piper and Paige.

Oblivion

02-11-2005, 02:12 PM

I have to agree what everything that's already been said; I was NEVER a huge Fan of Pheobe, I can barely tolerate her at all in most episodes, although in some she is at least bearable - and even though I wasn't much of a Prue Fan...actually hated her sometimes; she was the better sister; AND the better Witch in terms of the Power of Three.

However, back to the better actress thing- Alyssa has not impressed me in ANY movies I've seen her in, where as Shannon is definelty much more skilled in acting - In my opinion Alyssa is only casted because of her sexual appeal. "Sex Sells" so to speak, and thats the only logical reason why I think anyone would want her in their movies, either that or their just extreme dumbasses:shrug:.

Now; back to charmed:whistle:. At the time of Prue's 'legacy' when she was in Charmed, I didn't like her very much; but NOW looking back on it - and seeing the repeats of the episodes with her in them, I finally began to realize how much Prue/Shannon brought to the show, the previous episodes where Prue was on, are OBVIOUSLY very better then the most recent seasons. So when I look back on it, I defiently miss Prue; wish Phoebe would have died instead of her when I look back on it. But I suppose theres nothing we can do, but hope that in some weird way Shannon would come back and Alyssa would get fired...

So overall, in terms of Overall Acting and such; Shannon without a DOUBT takes the prize. :nod:

Tempest

02-11-2005, 04:53 PM

Jill Monroe

02-11-2005, 05:08 PM

Neither personally lmao. I agree with Brandon, the show would have died had Prue stayed on it...not like it isn't going downhill nowadays anways but still. I loved Phoebe in the beginning (Prue pissed me off too much) when they show was actually centered around the sisters and not the problems. Soon as the Colbe drama started up, I started getting fed up with her character lol, I jumped shipped to Piper...she's always been the stable one and while she may not act much, she's always had the better powers...of which she needs a new one already...it's been like 4 seasons and she hasn't gotten shit lol.

Now person wise, I love Alyssa back in her child star roles...watched it almost religiously, it was just really good. But nowadays, I don't really like either. Alyssa just isn't that good of an actress now that she's grown up, and Shannen's never impressed me in anything lol, I've just always hated her. The rudeness, drugs and drinking just didn't hold up in my book, though I will admit she is much better at movie acting than Alyssa any day hands down.

there is no definate way to tell that the show wouldve tanked with Prue staying on....if anything it nearly DID tank following her departure in season 4. the show lost MANY of its fans mostly the older demographic that it had surprisingly won over during its first 3 seasons.

Alot of people may not have liked Prue...but speaking as a woman who identified with her for many reasons....its par for the course NOT to like a woman who is a "take charge", "take no shit", "proactive", and "in control" kind of person. Prue's sense of duty and responsibility along with her proactive nature were the backbone of the show...and like her or not there was NO denying that. Clearly in the beginning of the show ..during its first 2 seaons...each sister had a purpose and truly added something to the group...even Phoebe brought something essential to the group until she became besotted with Cole. Prue would not have abandonned her sisters the way Phoebe did during season 4. She would not have let her "love" cloud her judgement...and in the ultimate display of why she WAS the best sister of all four Halliwells, she went to her death defending an Innocent...something PHOEBE has not been that concerned with during the last three seasons...and might i add..where was Phoebe when Shax was rampaging around town? she was down in the underworld...even after his first attack on the halliwell manor...all she could think about was "bringing cole" back...knowing that the power of three was needed to vanquish shax. where was the logic in that?

say what you will....but it was evident that Prue was the better sister..not only in powers but in attitude and sense of responsibility. Piper and Paige will never stack up to Prue...and Phoebe...well...WHATEVER position she falls in on the "totem poll" of the sisters...she's ALWAYS going to be dead last in my book

Shannen Doherty is a very good actress with a high work ethic. Even Aaron Spelling admitted that. Though she is a "bad girl" by reputation..she still made sure that she got her work done and she gave "110%" as said by Holly Marie Combs and Brian Austin Green (of her 90210 days). She has a nice portfolio of movies ...and her career platform during the 80's (our house, little house on the prairie etc) on up till now has been far more diverse and received far more kudos than Alyssa's. Alyssa's only bankable asset is her looks..and those will fade. True Shannen's problems with drugs, brawling and such might be out there in the open...but Alyssa aint no saint either lol. her overbearing mother Lynne just does damage control to make sure her dirt doesnt get out there.

Jacob Black

02-11-2005, 06:49 PM

I agree with Amy.. In the beginning I actually liked ALL Three of them very well. Each one was written so well and they all had a niche that they filled. When the Phoebe and Cole thing took a turn for the worst in Season Four, I started to miss Prue. I like Phoebe because of her powers, but I really don't like what her character has become.

I can see what Farrah said. The thing is, Paige got her witch power when Prue died. She got Prue's power, only different because of the Whitelighter in her. Paige probably would have gotten the Orbing with some kind of Premonition power, which would have been better. Since they ruined Leo's character, she could be the teleporter, and Paige has been known to Glamour in the past and whatnot. I think it would have worked pretty well now that you mention it.. I just can't get rid of Paige.. in the show the way it is now, Paige is my FAVORITE character...

I used to really like Piper, and I thought they handled her with Prue's death BRILLIANTLY in Season Four, but ever since Prue died she has just been so much colder and mean, and trying to take on the big sister role. Granted I love Piper, but Piper isn't really "Piper" anymore if that makes sense.

ZorCrow

02-12-2005, 11:03 PM

Jill Monroe

02-12-2005, 11:11 PM

As a man who never has, and never will watch a second of the show Charmed,
I would say Alyssa Milano. She looks better than Shannon D. That's what it comes down too to me. Shannon D is a better actress than Alyssa M. but I'm going off of looks and middle school crushes on the girl from Who's the Boss Alyssa Milano!

and this is JUST what i was talking about lol!!! alyssa's fame and popularity with men rests primarily on her "who's the boss" era..and her looks..and nothing more

:whistle: :p

ZorCrow

02-12-2005, 11:19 PM

and this is JUST what i was talking about lol!!! alyssa's fame and popularity with men rests primarily on her "who's the boss" era..and her looks..and nothing more

:whistle: :p

That's true, we men are simple, some of us. Shannon D is homely looking!

Jill Monroe

02-12-2005, 11:23 PM

That's true, we men are simple, some of us. Shannon D is homely looking!

<<GASP!>> you phillistine!!

Shannen is FAR from homely looking. <<folds arms and pouts>>

but you are so right. men generally will not pick Shannen in this debate simply because they are fixated on Alyssa's (fake) boobs....and her over sexual presentation in the role of Phoebe on Charmed...even though Shannen is clearly the better actress (AND has a naturally larger rack than Alyssa:o )

ZorCrow

02-12-2005, 11:42 PM

The choice is clear

Shannon D.

http://www.kousa.com/hollywood/d/doherty01.jpg

or Alyssa Milano (By Far Milano) Alyssa has a better looking face and is a more likeable actress than Shannon.

http://www.5in9.com/graphics/alyssa_milano_p43.jpg

Jacob Black

02-13-2005, 01:11 AM

I don't know.. Sometimes I think Shannen looks chinese lol... and one eye is bigger than the other..

Plus Shannen is a bitch, and Alyssa is always doing charity work and all that.

Oblivion

02-13-2005, 02:06 PM

I agree that Shannon isn't as attractive as Alyssa, in some picture's she looks' hideous:igitt:; however - talent wise I still stand with Shannon, I'm not old enough to have remembered, or even seen Alyssa's childhood show's and such, but from what I have seen, I still stand by Shannon as a much more talented actress ^_^

ZorCrow

02-14-2005, 01:53 PM

Alyssa Yes, Shannon D No, next question.

Jill Monroe

02-14-2005, 02:17 PM

Alyssa Yes, Shannon D No, next question.

you obviously didnt read my brief synopsis of a few movies that both actresses have done. there's a REASON why Alyssa hasnt done much outside of series television..and why she has had a MINIMAL presence on the big screen. SHE CANT ACT. All she can do is coo , and try to look pretty. :rolleyes:

Foxfire

02-14-2005, 04:31 PM

Farrah you forgot Alyssa acted in Double Dragons (based on the cartoon) which was ridiculous! LOL! And her wannabe blonde hair was disgusting! :igitt: :sure:

I get annoyed when fans bring up Shannon's past, so what? Who doesn't have a past, but what does it have to do with talent? Nothing at all. :stupid: If it wasn't for Shannen, their probably wouldn't be so much hype for Charmed.

Two reasons why I was interested in the show: Shannen and Holly, I couldn't really care about Alyssa. She'll always go down in history as a childhood star from Whose the boss and maybe a slim chance of Melrose Place.

Shannen's the "bad girl" but look at her astrological sign. She's an Aries here people they are known to explode and be aggressive. Hell my own mother is an Aries, which is why she can be brutal with her comments.

I've always liked Shannen, and I'll continue to enjoy her work. In my opinion though, I think Alyssa instigates a lot of shit but pretends to be innocent. :nod: Everyone thinks Alyssa is a saint but I don't buy it at all. I think she exploited Shannen for her past and with her temper.

Oblivion

02-15-2005, 06:06 PM

I've always liked Shannen, and I'll continue to enjoy her work. In my opinion though, I think Alyssa instigates a lot of shit but pretends to be innocent. :nod: Everyone thinks Alyssa is a saint but I don't buy it at all. I think she exploited Shannen for her past and with her temper.

Exactly! Shannon was just an easier target because of her past and her temper, I mean, you HARDLY heard any good things about Shannon, whether it be on Charmed or in Magazines, it was all negative because she was easier to spread things about, whether they were true or false. Shannon was the one that PUSHED for better storylines on Charmed, I mean really...look back on the past Seasons. Would you ever think that episodes with Wyatt Orbing Dragon's from Television, Nymphs, Leprechauns, Fake blonde bimbo's stealing the Charmed One's identites, would have even been considered if Shannon was still on the show?

Or, would you ever think that you would see episodes like Mortality Bites, and AHBL, on Charmed now? Of course not! Because when Shannon left, Charmed lost it's 'magic'. I'll give it to Alyssa that she put forth an effort in the first few seasons with acting, I liked all of the sisters equally back then, but in my opinion...the only reason Alyssa was 'trying' to put some effort into her character, was to compete with Shannon, since she was such a bigger name, and more succsessful - and talented actress then herself. But when Shannon left the show, then she felt she could take a breather, slack off even - I admit I started to despise Phoebe's character when she became involved with Cole, but even then - if she would have played Phoebe with as much drive she had in the first season's, maybe I wouldn't still hate her!

I just think Shannon leaving Charmed was the biggest mistake, their has been a steady decline in quality episodes, intresting storylines and such ever since she had left, and it's obvious Brad Kern see's that too. Seeing once Shannon left, the girls began to wear much more revealing and skimpy clothing, "Sex Sells", and since Shannon was raking in such a large majority of the viewers, when she left - they left as well, so the show needed better ratings. Therefore, their outfits now were the outcome:stupid:.

I don't know, I could go on and on about how I think Shannon is a much more talented actress then Alyssa, and I believe I already have; so I won't go off-topic anymore. It's just as simple as that, Alyssa doesn't even COMPARE to Shannon in any way. At least in my book, it's obvious she's a better actress by far.:nod:

Jill Monroe

02-16-2005, 11:47 AM

Exactly! Shannon was just an easier target because of her past and her temper, I mean, you HARDLY heard any good things about Shannon, whether it be on Charmed or in Magazines, it was all negative because she was easier to spread things about, whether they were true or false. Shannon was the one that PUSHED for better storylines on Charmed, I mean really...look back on the past Seasons. Would you ever think that episodes with Wyatt Orbing Dragon's from Television, Nymphs, Leprechauns, Fake blonde bimbo's stealing the Charmed One's identites, would have even been considered if Shannon was still on the show?

Or, would you ever think that you would see episodes like Mortality Bites, and AHBL, on Charmed now? Of course not! Because when Shannon left, Charmed lost it's 'magic'. I'll give it to Alyssa that she put forth an effort in the first few seasons with acting, I liked all of the sisters equally back then, but in my opinion...the only reason Alyssa was 'trying' to put some effort into her character, was to compete with Shannon, since she was such a bigger name, and more succsessful - and talented actress then herself. But when Shannon left the show, then she felt she could take a breather, slack off even - I admit I started to despise Phoebe's character when she became involved with Cole, but even then - if she would have played Phoebe with as much drive she had in the first season's maybe I wouldn't still hate her!

these points are EXACTLY what im thinking lol.

The last three seasons of the show have been about the sisters getting turned into all sorts of caricatures /creatures/characters and the ultimate goal is to basically reverse the transformation. its gotten reduced to a predictable formula. They NEVER shouldve introduced a baby into the storylines...Aaron Spelling shows NEVER do well withe presence of babies. But NONE of this may have happened if Shannen stayed.

Just think...if Phoebe had died instead of Prue..you know Prue wouldve been relentless in her pursuit of vengeance against Shax. Paige joining the fray wouldve reconstituted the power of three..and Prue, being the proactive strategist that she was, wouldve lead the time on an all out search and destroy campaign against Shax and the Source and i DOUBT it wouldve taken them a whole season to do it. Cole/Belthazor woudlve been dispatched in season 4 as well.....instaed of it taking 2 seasons.

The sisters as a whole became LESS powerful, less competent and seemed to display the WORST aspects of their personalities following Prue's death. Granted there had to be some shifts since Piper became the oldest sister...but despite her surly , bitchy demeanor, she still lacks the proactive drive that Prue had. Phoebe is just selfish and self absorbed and not NEARLY the cute, spunky "baby sister" that once perfectly rounded out the trio...and Paige....while she TRIES to be the super witch..she is still too easily smacked down (even by HUMANS like Inspector Sheridan) and dismissed by her sisters...its a shame that she seems to be more proactive than Piper and Paige and yet THEY think they know better than she. Yes Paige received the power to move objects with her mind......but it was dilluted by her white lighter heritage..and you can clearly see how the sisters were "powered down" because with Phoebe being the focus of the show...and she having the weakest powers...they obviously didnt want Piper or Paige to outshine her the way Prue easily did being that Prue was the strongest sister. The sisters now rely on potions, "power of three spells" [more than in previous seasons], LEO (now THAT is sad) and the intervention of "demons gone good" and other outside forces more than their own powers ..which in the first three seasons...they were sharp and deft in the use of.

The show couldve gone many different ways with or without Prue...and even though it lost its quality and its uniqueness after Prue's death.....the writing couldve been handled a hell of a lot better than it has these last three seasons. Anyone who gets the complete 1rst season dvd will be able to see why SHANNEN IS the better actress and even if her looks dont appeal to some men...her sense of fashion was FAR more chic and classy than Phoebe/Alyssa's. Even the write up in Entertainment Weekly notes how the show is LACKING without Shannen/Prue.

ZorCrow

02-16-2005, 11:23 PM

Why all this writing?

1. Alyssa Milano is a sex symbol, since many of us Gen X'ers were in middle school now that we are getting older she's still hot (too skinny for me).

2. Shannon D is a creep, she treats people like dirt, she can act, but she's a brat and she isn't worthy enough to wash Alyssa Milano's hair.

3. Shannon D can act better, but doesn't look better and she's a has been who's been kicked out of every studio in hollywood.

Alyssa rules, Shannon Drools!

Prue Halliwell

02-17-2005, 01:07 PM

2. Shannon D is a creep, she treats people like dirt, she can act, but she's a brat and she isn't worthy enough to wash Alyssa Milano's hair.

3. Shannon D can act better, but doesn't look better and she's a has been who's been kicked out of every studio in hollywood.

AKA: She's an amazing actress but she's a bitch.

Jill Monroe

02-17-2005, 01:13 PM

shake off the haters, Shannen!! you alright girlie! ;)

ZorCrow

02-17-2005, 01:17 PM

AKA: She's an amazing actress but she's a b***.

Now, I wouldn't go profane on her. Also, I wouldn't say "amazing" about her acting skills either. She is limited but she's a better actress than Alyssa.
Why is this even a thread (@Spellbinder;) ) Alyssa, Alyssa, Alyssa Men Have named you!!!!!!! :'(

I like this thread :)

Jill Monroe

02-18-2005, 12:32 PM

Shannen , a "has been"? i think not.

Shannen has starred in several successfull TV movies since departing Charmed. She had a solid career in TV before Charmed as well. She also hosted Scare Tactics for several seasons...hand picked by the producers of the show. (i loved the episodes where she actually took part in the pranks)

she has been in such movies as "Another Day", "The Rendering", "Satan's School for Girls", "The Battle of Mary Kay"......and ALL of these movies have gotten solid reviews ( i HIGHLY recommend "The rendering" and "the battle of mary kay"). Shannen is a serious small screen actress who has range and is very fashionable too ( CLASSY....unlike Alyssa's TRASHY)

Currently she is on "North Shore"...(which they needed to move to a better time slot) as cold and ball busting "Alexandra Hudson" and is being tapped for a new sitcom in development.

Oblivion

02-18-2005, 04:13 PM

Where as Shannon has STILL been succsessful after leaving Charmed (Like Farrah said), I don't remember seeing Alyssa in anything other then Charmed...huh, I wonder why?:whistle:. And as for Alyssa being a Sex Symbol, she may look 'better' then Shannon in some cases, but she IS a better Actress, which is what this thread is all about, acting, succsess etc. I could careless who looked better; those will fade - TALENT, won't:D.

ZorCrow

03-15-2005, 09:00 PM

It's still Alyssa no matter what you guys say, she is more marketable because of her looks and Shannon D. is less because of her nasty attitude off screen

ZorCrow

10-08-2005, 10:02 AM

Eat your hearts out!!

Alyssa Milano Rules!!! http://www.celebstation.org/actresses/alyssa_milano/Alyssa_Milano-017.jpg

Mat

10-08-2005, 10:39 AM

Wouldn't it be more fitting to say Rose McGowan rules, as she's the one who replaced her on Charmed?

That aside, I agree. Better actress, more attractive, etc. ;)

Jill Monroe

10-08-2005, 12:37 PM

nice try zorcrow, but we already had a thread about this...so i merged your posts. and by the wayif your going to start THIS up again...why dont you post picture of Alyssa as she looks NOW [instead of a shot of her from season 4 of charmed] ...all skeletal and strung out on crack...with the body of a twelve year old bulemic.

face it man, shannen is the far superior actress...and alyssa's look are starting to fade...NOTICEABLY.

Foxfire

10-16-2005, 08:21 PM

Mat

10-16-2005, 08:32 PM

LOL! So true Spell. I saw a second of Alyssa's 'Embrace of the vampire' her acting was awful! She couldn't even fake a sex scene. :igitt: :whistle: ;)

What are you talking about!? That was a great movie! You just have to be watching it for the right reasons. :D

Harley Quinn

10-16-2005, 08:54 PM

Wow, I totally missed this thread. LOL.

I admit when I first heard of Charmed I tuned in because of Alyssa Milano. I was a fan of hers from Melrose Place and watching reruns of Who's the Boss. But as the show progressed, I became an even bigger fan of Holly Marie Combs. :)

As far as who's "better". Frankly I find both actresses to be B class. LOL. Shannen is a has been, and Alyssa is only still around because of Charmed and her magazine spreads in Maxim Magazine and FHM. I've seen many films from both actresses, and even though Shannen has had better parts in her films then Alyssa's, they both aren't the best actresses around. LOL.

I love them on Charmed. I loved seasons 1-3 of Charmed with the original sisters, and I enjoyed Holly and soon grew to enjoy the new sisters during seasons 4-6. Although I do admit to not catching season 7 until the very last episodes, i'm now watching season 8 and finding it very good actually. ;)

But anyway, as far as who's the "best"...ehh...I can't really decide. LOL

Jill Monroe

10-17-2005, 06:37 AM

thats a very sweeping generalization about Shannen....and im not saying that just because I'm a Shannen Doherty fan.

I'm saying that because BOTH actresses are "small screen" actresses and have had a minimal presence on BIG SCREEN....but then again the same can be said for Heather Locklear. She's an amazing television actress....some consider her the "queen of the small screen" but she has had a small presence on the big screen (movies) as well most recently choosing to star along side the supremely NON TALENTED Hillary Duff :stupid: its like putting the earth next to jupiter....they didnt belong together in the same movie.

But no one questions Heather's ability and even with the recently failed L.A.X show, everyone is still very much a "heather fan".

Shannen is far from a has been. she's had many successfull TV movies that received solid reviews and "critical acclaim" (Another Day, The Rendering-the most recent) and even Aaron Spelling and former cast mates from 90210 and Holly Marie Combs commented on the fact that Shannen "gives 110 percent" when working. She's a very meticulous actress who gives her all. IF she WERENT someone with a measure of talent beyond titillating male tv viewers (alyssa) why would Aaron Spelling have tapped her to lead the cast of a SECOND show of his after her infamous "firing" from 90210?

Alyssa wasnt even FIRST CHOICE casting for Charmed.

Alyssa's platform post "Who's the boss" lay heavily on her looks ...about the ONLY time i saw her turn out a DECENT performance was in the movie "FEAR" with Reese Witherspoon and Mark Whalberg. Since joining Charmed..she's been eye candy...nothing more.

Shannen may not be in the public eye right now, but there are plenty of other strong actresses who arent on a regular series right now...she'll come back soon. She'd be a great candidate for a guest appearence on Law & Order. Lynda Carter just did a successfull, highly rated two episode guest appearence on Law & Order which crossed over to Law & Order SVU.....and although LC is remembered MOST for her role as Wonder Woman and her role in "V" she too did several memorable TV movies and most people consider her to be a decent "small screen" actress.

Harley Quinn

10-17-2005, 02:01 PM

Jill Monroe

10-17-2005, 03:06 PM

I still stand by what I said. Shannen is a good actress, but as far as the best, I don't believe so. There are plenty of actresses currently on tv that have been in small screen movies that outshine Shannen completely.

But I do have to say, Shannen is by far better on television then she is in the small screen movies. Yes there have been some movie that I liked with her in them, but she shines more in the television circut then anything else.

but we arent comparing her to "all actresses on television" and certainly not anyone on the big screen (although there are a few that have appeared on the big screen that arent even worthy to be called actresses in ANY medium...Paris Hilton anyone? LOL)

the topic is "shannen vs. alyssa"...so there's no need to compare her to anyone ELSE on the tv circuit....its just a debate about THESE TWO PARTICULAR actresses.

everyone is always so quick to favor alyssa (not saying you have stated that yourself) BUT the fact is...what has alyssa DONE in the way of movies for television or anything else? she's got by on her looks and her notariety of being a child star that got sexy when she grew up...but her platform is even MORE narrow than Shannen's (who was also a child star at one point.)

Foxfire

10-17-2005, 03:11 PM

What are you talking about!? That was a great movie! You just have to be watching it for the right reasons. :D

LOL! Did you want it for the girl on girl action it contains? One of my friends, Joe, wanted to rent it because he LOVES Alyssa and heard about the love scene.

I watched a second of it the other night on television when that guy was going down on her and it was so BAD!! She was moaning when he touched her leg, LMAO! :D And then the phone rang or whatever. It just humored me how bad her acting was just to shoot a sex scene. I imagine the other scenes were bad. :worry: ;)

Mat

10-17-2005, 03:45 PM

LOL! Did you want it for the girl on girl action it contains? One of my friends, Joe, wanted to rent it because he LOVES Alyssa and heard about the love scene.

I watched a second of it the other night on television when that guy was going down on her and it was so BAD!! She was moaning when he touched her leg, LMAO! :D And then the phone rang or whatever. It just humored me how bad her acting was just to shoot a sex scene. I imagine the other scenes were bad. :worry: ;)

Nah, I'm actually one of the rare few who isn't turned-on by girl on girl action. My basic premise being "I'd rather play the game than sit on the sidelines and watch".

It was on HBO about five years back and I didn't even know it was Alyssa Milano until probably half an hour in. lol

Still, that movie was better than Blindfold: Acts of Obsession in which Shannen Doherty proves once again that not even in softcore porn is there a place for her in the entertainment industry. ;) :D

Harley Quinn

10-17-2005, 03:46 PM

but we arent comparing her to "all actresses on television" and certainly not anyone on the big screen (although there are a few that have appeared on the big screen that arent even worthy to be called actresses in ANY medium...Paris Hilton anyone? LOL)

the topic is "shannen vs. alyssa"...so there's no need to compare her to anyone ELSE on the tv circuit....its just a debate about THESE TWO PARTICULAR actresses.

everyone is always so quick to favor alyssa (not saying you have stated that yourself) BUT the fact is...what has alyssa DONE in the way of movies for television or anything else? she's got by on her looks and her notariety of being a child star that got sexy when she grew up...but her platform is even MORE narrow than Shannen's (who was also a child star at one point.)

Yeah yeah yeah, keep defending your lesbian lover Farrah. :p

LOL, well I guess I would choose Shannen over Alyssa acting wise. As far as look wise i'd say Alyssa over Shannen. Shannen face just seems to be really lopsided in some pictures. LOL

Jill Monroe

10-17-2005, 03:50 PM

Yeah yeah yeah, keep defending your lesbian lover Farrah. :p

LOL, well I guess I would choose Shannen over Alyssa acting wise. As far as look wise i'd say Alyssa over Shannen. Shannen face just seems to be really lopsided in some pictures. LOL

whatever skank. just because you masterbate every time you see Alyssa aka SKELETOR in drag getting her ass thrown around the room by a demon....we know you like that S&M shit. LOL :haha:

Looks wise..i say shannen had a better body than Alyssa...especially in seasons 1 an 2. look at the way her clothes (all black ensembles, tight fighting and some leather) fit her. they were running NECK AND NECK for the "best rack" category...someone on original CB even said that (and got in trouble LOL). Alyssa was probably at her best (looks wise) in season 3.....but she sure aint going nothing going on NOW. :worry:

but of course i still base my pick on talent and movies ...in which Shannen Alyssa beat. and MAT..you are such a frickin pervert....LOL you and your "soft core" (and im sure HARD CORE) Porn flicks :p

Foxfire

10-17-2005, 04:01 PM

Alyssa had that trashy appeal which is why I liked Shannon better look wise and acting. Shannon had this bad girl appeal BUT she knew how to dress too. Remember that tube top Phoebe had on, she looked like she layed around in butter to slip it on. ;) :igitt:

I always thought SD was more attractive, the eyes and the raven hair, I especially liked her in 90210 after she changed her brunette color to black and she cut it. :angel:

Mat

10-17-2005, 04:01 PM

but of course i still base my pick on talent and movies ...in which Shannen Alyssa beat. and MAT..you are such a frickin pervert....LOL you and your "soft core" (and im sure HARD CORE) Porn flicks :p

Who? Me?

:angel:

Hey, every warmblooded heterosexual male enjoys his share of beautiful unclad ladies. Don't like the hardcore stuff, though. I'm kindof strange in a lot of ways from my fellow tripods. Girl on girl isn't a turn on, girl with implement isn't a turn on, and hardcore porn is full of fake breasted women with big hair with skin that looks like it's been through a five year sandstorm.

:hys:

Harley Quinn

10-17-2005, 04:14 PM

I actually agree with you guys in the body part. Shannen has a killer body and totally out beats Alyssa in that. Although I did think Alyssa looked her best in season 3 with her atheltic look. (now she's just skinny as hell).

But I face wise Alyssa is cuter to me. And shut the hell up Farrah! LOL. Alyssa is far from what turns me on. Try Julian! (Not on Charmed...I wasn't attracted to him on Charmed for some reason) :D:D:D Omg did you see him on Nip/Tuck this past week. Holy god. LOL

Foxfire

10-17-2005, 04:31 PM

Alyssa is far from what turns me on. Try Julian!

Oh honey, its not Julian for you....its JULIA!! Julia Robets is your turn on. :whistle: ;)

Harley Quinn

10-17-2005, 05:05 PM

Whatever. LOL

Mat

10-17-2005, 08:05 PM

Jill Monroe

10-17-2005, 08:13 PM

As someone who has seen both of the ladies in question naked I'm going to have to say Alyssa totally beats Shannen. Furthermore, though Alyssa is not exactly the most intriguing of personalities she is not well known for being a bitch, unlike Shannen who is pretty much hated by everyone who works with her. So Alyssa is better.

HEY! there's NOTHING wrong with being a BITCH! :farrah: << folds arms...and then points at sub signature>> BITCHcraft is an essential force in this world. :D

but on the serious tip...Shannen has been labeled a bitch by some...but at the same time Aaron spelling, Brian Austin Green, Gabrielle Cateris, and most especially Holly marie Combs have ALL defended her and stated (very similarly) that her commitment to her work and her tenacity is often mistaken for bitchiness. personally i dont see a problem with that. alot of people in ego have easily bruised egos and someone like Shannen wouldnt coddle them...and there are FAR WORSE "bitch" actresses in hollywood.

Alyssa is just about as exciting to watch as grass grow.

Mat

10-17-2005, 08:27 PM

HEY! there's NOTHING wrong with being a BITCH! :farrah: << folds arms...and then points at sub signature>> BITCHcraft is an essential force in this world. :D

Well, that depends on your definition of bitch. If by bitch you mean a strong-willed woman who doesn't easily compromise her integrity, than by all means it's a good thing.

But when it's someone who is being unnecessarily unreasonable and unkind to those she interacts with, well...what a bitch! :D

And, of course, there is the 3rd bitch. A person who, though they may try not to succumb to another's obvious power over them, are nonetheless hopelessly left to placate their master as they are their master's bitch. ie Zorcrow being yours. <nods sagely>

j/k Zor. You know I love ya.

Harley Quinn

10-17-2005, 08:36 PM

Foxfire

10-18-2005, 11:12 AM

LOL, well said. :p

This is coming from a woman who colors her jeans....LOL! ;) Just kidding Sam.

Seriously though, both women have great bodies but most men seem to adore Alyssa more where as most women enjoy Shannon better....well some. I think Alyssa is more curvy in places than Shannon.

Attitude can be a sexy quality, its been known Shannon is an Aries, which are explosive for tempers. If anything I still think Alyssa provoked Shannon and then pleaded innocent by wrapping Aaron Spelling around her own finger. Holly even stood up for Shannon during that time period.

Look at Farrah...she's been labeled a bitch but she's proud of it. There's nothing wrong with being independent and unafraid to argue their point or even bitchfight it out lol. So many people feel this is a bad quality but its not. It just means, "I don't take shit." :D

ZorCrow

10-18-2005, 02:50 PM

Forget the the talk, the truth is this, Alyissa Milano looks better, and is a better actress and a better human being that that loser Shannon D.

Oblivion

10-18-2005, 03:58 PM

Alyssa had that trashy appeal which is why I liked Shannon better look wise and acting. Shannon had this bad girl appeal BUT she knew how to dress too. Remember that tube top Phoebe had on, she looked like she layed around in butter to slip it on. ;) :igitt:
:angel:

Which is why I prefer Shannon as well, not only is she a better actress (Which has been said continously throughout the thread), but although Alyssa may appeal to some (and myself) in some cases in the looks department, it's the way she throws her sex appeal around that throws me off. It's as if she has to try and make up for the lack of talent by wearing anything and everything that she can squeeze herself into. (Which has to be almost everything now, considering how skinny she is). Really, it's time to stop shopping in the kiddies department and go take some acting classes.

Alyssa looked good in season three, when she wasn't extra thin like she is now, but now her body doesn't look as good to me, and although I haven't seen Shannon in a while - I still prefer her to Alyssa. No matter what ya'll say :whistle:.

Not to say Alyssa is a horrible actress, just in everything I've seen her in (Which is sadly limited to Charmed, which I haven't bothered to watch this season or most of the last), she hasn't been up to par with what I've seen of Shannon's acting ability. At least in my opinion :shrug: .

Jacob Black

10-19-2005, 03:22 PM

While I liked Alyssa Milano alot, we have to look at both sides of everything. Shannen may be labeled a bitch, but Alyssa Milano is labeled in a tramp, almost every single movie she has ever done after Who's the Boss portrays her as a stripper, trollop or something worse, so BOTH of the girls have a label and personally I would rather be called a bitch rather than a slut lol.

Looking at their body of work, Shannen is up there with Heather Locklear in terms of respect... Aaron always creates the better roles for her.. Brenda had EVERYONE talking on 90210 and Prue was the strongest and most powerful woman character on the show. She gets roles that demand respect and women who are no holds barred, where as Alyssa Milano I feel gets cast because she is eye candy...

Foxfire

10-20-2005, 10:31 AM

Sam

05-14-2006, 07:26 AM

Ok I am a Shannen Doherty fan, so imo she is both the best actress and Prue is better than Phoebe.

Shannen has been in many brilliant films, and deserves recognition for them.

The Rendering - A really good thriller that got you sat on the edge of your seat.

Gone in the night - One of her best movies, her character Cyndi was great and I think she played the mother very well.

Sleeping with the devil - Her character Rebecca was good, the storyline was moving and she was just great as usual :)

Mallrats - Very funny :D She played René so well and had me laughing a lot.

I have seen more but I am just repeating myself so it's rather pointless, with Alyssa I have only seen her in Charmed and well I think I will leave it at that.

I hope to see Shannen in some new things soon :)

Rampage

05-14-2006, 08:24 AM

Jill Monroe

05-14-2006, 12:15 PM

Just looking at these two its hard for me to favor either in terms of acting as I have not been particularly impressed by them. Alyssa is far better looking, and although she does carry aparty girl reputation I think she is far better liked than Shannen, who is labeled a real bitch. And I don't mean strong woman, I mean hard to deal with. I know she has defenders, but most of them are the powerful Hollywood types that she would trample costars and one-time friends to get next to anyway. I mean really, who is going to piss off Aaron Spelling?
I the end, neither of them arevery noteworthy actors, Alyssa is pretty (Shannen is not) and seems ti get along better with people.

just because you arent familiar with Shannen's body of work doesnt mean she's not a good actress. The fact that Shannen has the STRENGTH and CREDIBILITY of a talented and hard working actress (descriptions imparted to her by her peers and even past coworkers who admited part of the reason she's such a hard ass is because she is VERY focused on her craft) as opposed to Alyssa...who even HOLLY didnt back up publicly during the Shannen's departure from Charmed should tell you there IS a difference.

Shannen was mentored by Michael Landon (would you question his credibility or judgement?) ; Kevin Smith ignored all the bad publicity surrounding her "bad girl" image and wanted to work with her because he felt she was the "right woman for the job". Aaron Spelling HIMSELF brought her BACK into his empire POST "90210" and conceived the role for "Prue Halliwell" AROUND Shannen. ALYSSA MILANO wasnt even first choice to play "Phoebe Halliwell".. Shannen has had a more successfull run of TV's and TV movies....and at least she DOESNT have the embarrassment of such films as "Poison Ivy 2", and "Embrace of the Vampire" added to her resume like Alyssa...who did just about EVERYTHING (no matter how gimmicky or horrible a role it was) to try to escape her "who's the boss" image. it wasn't until Melrose Place that finally began to take Alyssa SERIOUSLY as a young adult actress and even though it was more for nostalgia than any thing she had done POST "whose the boss".

Shannen has been critically praised for her work in "Another Day", "The Rendering" and "The Battle of Mary Kay" and i think she's AWARE that she's a SMALL SCREEN actress which is why she hasnt tried to break into the BIG SCREEN movie roles. (unlike Alyssa.. who has had SEVERAL FORGETTABLE film roles).

Alyssa may be "better looking" in the FACE than Shannen..but have you checked their bodies? Shannen is tight, has a FEMININE figure and a flawless bust that is REAL. Alyssa has sported the body of a 14 year old CRACKHEAD since seasno 4 on charmed. she looks gaunt and its very unattractive..and can we said "TOO MANY TATTOOS and BREAST IMPLANTS?" :rolleyes:

Shannen may be a bitch...but she's more respected an actress than Alyssa...and as Prophet said earlier...i'd rather be a BITCH than a TRAMP...at least the BITCH gets respect (and a little bit of fear lol).

Sasha

05-21-2006, 11:22 AM

I agree that Alyssa isn't the best actor and Shannon could easily eclipse her, but.... Shannon has been rumoured to be difficult to work with and doesn't quite set a good working atmosphere. I'm not sure how I feel about Shannon as a person, but I love and miss her character. Prue was a wonderful leader and she led her sisters well through out many of their fights. The only thing is... I don't think Prue is the strongest sister. I think Piper is... but that's a debate for another time.

I think once Charmed ends... Alyssa should do something to prove herself. Until then.... Alyssa is just eye candy. People like to look at her and her character although lovable at times is the weakest of the group. Pheobe is the most emotional of the three and it puts her in a very compromising position. Prue was a very strong and grounded and Piper easily took her position well.

Although I don't like Shannon as a person, I do however respect her as an actress and I love most of the projects she's done in her career. I really can't wait to see what she does in the future.

Foxfire

05-21-2006, 01:10 PM

Embrace of the Vampire and Poison Ivy was very soft core porn. LOL! I saw Poison Ivy (well, I was channel surfing) and it happened to be on the sex scene. It was so pathetic when she was attempting to give the guy a blow job. It wasn't tasteful in the least, I remember Vil was on the phone laughing. "What the fuck is this?" Then I realized it was Alyssa trying to "act" LOL but it wasn't working. Most debate if a sex scene is acting, but I think so. The actor or actress has to put passion into it.

It just looked like he pushed her up against the door and had his way with her. :whistle: :D I liked the first Poison Ivy film, that was tantilizing but this was...funny.

So many guys want to see the film because she's naked. Which goes to show you its her eye candy ability, not her acting. :shrug:

ZorCrow

05-21-2006, 02:47 PM

Is this tread still going?

Alyssa Milano looks better than Shannon D. and is an easier person to work with.

She wins out hands down . . .

Foxfire

05-21-2006, 03:14 PM

Is this tread still going?

Alyssa Milano looks better than Shannon D. and is an easier person to work with.

She wins out hands down . . .

Whose to say Alyssa didn't instigate the matter? Just because Shannon chose to leave 90210 and Charmed doesn't mean she's difficult to work with. She's fiery, yes, but I think some of her cast members did provoke her, Alyssa one of them.

Jill Monroe

05-21-2006, 03:43 PM

not only that..but Aaron Spelling ASKED SHANNEN PERSONALLY to star on Charmed. the character of Prue Halliwell was CREATED for her. Holly Marie was cast because she was in the right place at the right time and asked to read for the role of Piper...and Alyssa WASNT EVEN FIRST CHOICE to play "Phoebe". She was SECOND choice...after a rather FORGETTABLE run on Melrose Place. Shannen has the greater acting ability, and talent. Looks FADE.

Rampage

05-21-2006, 04:02 PM

Alyssa 's looks will have to fade quite a bit to drop to Shannen Doherty level. And while Doherty's acting ability has been lauded here, I have yet to be presented with a role that was actually seen by anyone. Who cares if she was good in a few shitty movies??? In fact, the claim could be made that Alyssa'a days as a KID on "Who's the Boss?" are nearly the equal to anything Shannen has done. Both of them in the end are lightweights, Milano is BY FAR the better looking woman hand down.

Jill Monroe

05-21-2006, 04:35 PM

Alyssa 's looks will have to fade quite a bit to drop to Shannen Doherty level. And while Doherty's acting ability has been lauded here, I have yet to be presented with a role that was actually seen by anyone.

well apparently "someone" (more than one actually) HAVE seen Shannen's movies because they've been reference more than once HERE by more than a few people so that satisfies THAT criteria for you :p

Who cares if she was good in a few shitty movies??? In fact, the claim could be made that Alyssa'a days as a KID on "Who's the Boss?" are nearly the equal to anything Shannen has done. Both of them in the end are lightweights, Milano is BY FAR the better looking woman hand down.

Shannen Doherty was a "child" actress as well. "Little House on the Prairier" and "Our House" both shows had ENORMOUS popularity during the 80s. Shannen was mentored by Michael Landon and had a personal, CLOSE friendship with him (father/daughter). If anything...the length of time the two actresses have been working could be compared..but NOT the QUALITY of their work. Shannen has a better Q-rating, whether you want to believe it or not. The fact that Shannen did not have to work AS HARD to "break out" of the child roles she played (where as Alyssa struggled for YEARS to be known for something OTHER than "Samantha Maselli") shows who had the greater appeal to a wider audience.

and as for looks...to each his/her own. Maxim has listed Shannen in their Hot 100 list at least two to three times (in the top 50) i dont know HOW many times Alyssa has been listed. and you may not find her FACE appealing (alot of people comment on her eyes...but Shannen HAS A BODY that is worth a look or two. ;)

charmedslayer

05-22-2006, 09:03 PM

Is this tread still going?

Alyssa Milano looks better than Shannon D. and is an easier person to work with.

She wins out hands down . . .

Alyssa Milano is way hotter than Shannon Doherty... and I think Alyssa is a good actress... as is Shannon... but Shannon is too hard to work with

mrfolson

05-26-2006, 01:39 PM

Is this tread still going?

Alyssa Milano looks better than Shannon D. and is an easier person to work with.

She wins out hands down . . .

I have to agree with Crow Spell. Shannon can act better than Alyssa, but from my research she is a bitch to work with.................please don't whip me. :farrah:

ZorCrow

05-26-2006, 04:43 PM

All these folks defending Shannon D. would not be doing it if they met her.
Once she would spit on them or upset them then they would declare war with her.

Shannon D. needs an attitude adjustment.

Nightly Belle

06-05-2006, 07:37 AM

It is rather obvious that Shannen is a lot more productive than Alyssa. I think Charmed was solely based on Phoebe. She was so vulnerable, and I didn't likw that. Perhaps if they gave Prue and Piper more attention it would have been a lot better. And come on, Phoebe's powers are just blah! Even her levitation. And why does she deserve to have the flame throwing and what not, regardless of whether she was pregnant with Cole's baby or not. Piper kind of had sucky powers whenever she was pregnant. But you know, the good people always kinda do get the sucky "good" powers. Oh well.

Arkaine

06-06-2006, 08:24 AM

Piper was invincible when pregnant.. I wouldn't exactly call that "sucky" :-p

Sasha

06-06-2006, 10:41 AM

Especially when she was a god.... she nearly destroyed the world. Piper is very grounded, however she also has the worst temper of the 3. When she's pissed, her power doubles.

Oracle

06-06-2006, 10:51 AM

Prue and Piper were OBVIOUSLY more powerfull than Phoebe. PAIGE was more powerfull than Phoebe but in order for them to make the show seem like it was "ALL ABOUT PHOEBE" from Season 4 thru 8, they "powered down" the Sisters in general , making them less proactive, less responsive/fast to act and far too reliant on potions.

There again is an argument for Shannen (Prue on Charmed) ...for when Prue lead the sisters in seasons 1 thru 3 her motto: "the best defense is a good offense". they didnt rely THAT heavily on potions, they used their powers, and they were stronger on the whole. It was often stated (By Piper no less) that Prue was the strongest and the Source himself stated to Phoebe "your power was always the weakest..not worth taking"

keep in mind that Shannen Doherty was the FIRST person to be cast on Charmed, sought out personally by Aaron Spelling. Alyssa Milano wasnt even first choice to play Phoebe. Lori Rom gave Phoebe a much more "street smart" vibe to Phoebe were as Alyssa Milano played up a "babe-a-licious" version of Phoebe (and this was SO over used during seasons 5 thru 8).

phoebe_vs_prue

08-03-2006, 08:54 AM

I like Shannen a whole lot more than Alyssa, since Prudence was always the brillant, smart, pretty, big sister. Phoebe was a soft-centered little sister. I wished that they fired Alyssa instead of Shannen. I mean it, WB's Charmed was much better in the first three seasons; the ones that had Shannen as ... Prudence, the unforgettable big sister. Prue had the best powers :angel: while Phoebe was Miss premonition lady. If I was Aaron Spelling, I would've fired Alyssa. As Piper says in the forth season, to Leo, "You healed the wrong sister ." I guessed that it is because I hate Alyssa, that's why I'm saying that MISSS Shannen is better...you decide! :blah:

phoebe_vs_prue

08-03-2006, 09:10 AM

The truth is that Alyssa is too, well, self centered. When she plays Phoebe, she tries to do her best, but, just fails badly. While Shannen on the other hand, she doesn't have to try hard (but she does anyway), to be "the best". Shannen can win Alyssa in Charmed and in the real world.

Much to my surprise, people say bitches (if you know what I mean) are smarter and more reliable. When you think of Shannen, what do you think of? I think of a role model ready to "be on the set" and shoot that movie! Sometimes, someone's gotta lose! In this case, it's

A L Y S S A J A Y N E M I L A N O

NOT Shannen Maria Doherty!

Shannen Rules!!!

Rampage

08-14-2006, 10:38 PM

Mat

08-15-2006, 04:51 PM

Most of the debate seems to be centered around the characters they played on Charmed. Perhaps my views are skewed differently because unlike practically every girl that frequents these boards, I never watched much of Charmed. <shrugs>

Foxfire

08-16-2006, 11:31 PM

Just to put this out there, I find it interesting how this vs. came down along gender lines.
The women here found Shannen to be tough and cool while the guys seem to find her simply bitchy and shrewish. Meanwhile, the guys found Alyssa likeable while the women seem to despise her as empty eye candy.
Quite interesting indeed.

Honey, let's face it men think with their head and not the one attached to the shoulders lol. Alyssa is nothing more than a slut, her acting ability is terrible. She's known as "Sam" from her Whose the boss days.

Shannon has been acting for years since she was young. Just because she knows what she wants and takes charge doesn't make her bitchy. She has more talent than Alyssa, her movies and her television shows prove it.

Most men look at Alyssa and think she's "hot and sexy" and therefore see a few interviews and label her "sweet" or what not. She USES her sex appeal to get her roles, look at Poison Ivy 2 LOL!

Shannon is a solid actress despite her murky history. She's a woman in charge of her career, despite a few run ins with the law.

Arkaine

08-17-2006, 06:03 PM

To be honest, I prefer Alyssa to Shannen and I don't think it's got anything to do with thinking with my below-the-waist-head on the matter. I respect that she posts on the internet, in her forum, to her fans. I also respect the abundence of charity work that she does and her urging young people to vote in the last Presidental Election.

Shannen Doherty, I can't admire. I'm sorry but I lose ALL respect for someone who drink-drives. People might brush this under the carpet or dismiss it but, IMHO, it's a huge deal. What if Shannen hit a child because her reaction times were slowed? When she did that, she put other people's lives at risk and that, to me, is disgusting. Yes, she has stated remorse for it but I honestly can't respect anyone who thinks it's a "good idea" to start with. Especially someone who obviously has the money to pay for a fricken cab.

As for acting.. I don't and never will think Shannen is a good actress. I may be proven wrong if she played parts that varied in any way but as a friend often said, Prue = Brenda with magic powers. Alyssa, honestly, is the same, so I'm not touting her as an exceptionally good actress by comparison but I certainly think she is just as capable of an actress as Shannen (despite both of them failing to win me over as accomplished).

Looks wise, I believe Alyssa is more attractive. This is because I go for faces over bodies. Shannen has a better body because it lacks Alyssa's gorilla hair. However, Alyssa has a face that doesn't look like her left eye is trying to escape. Yes, it's petty, but I like facial symetry.

Alyssa may be considered a "slut" for her raunchy outfits but I think the point is negated when you're using it as evidence for why she's better than a woman who has posed in Playboy.

And, honestly, I think using a "Shannen has been acting since she was a child" is really not a bonus over someone who has done the same.

All in all, I'm gonna lay it down the way I see it: Both of them are sub-grade actresses. Both of them aren't stunning beauties. Both of them could be equally bitchy behind the scenes for all I know.

However, what I do know is that Alyssa has actually done some charity work -- and continues to do so while Shannen is most famous these days for drink-driving and smearing lipstick on Paris Hilton's car.

Jill Monroe

08-17-2006, 06:27 PM

ive stated this before, but in light of this recent slam against Shannen's acting ability, i MUST disagree.

firstly, while NEITHER actress has struck gold on the big screen, Shannen AT LEAST get's an "A" for effort for playing Kevin Smith's leading lady in "Mall Rats" in which she did receive generally good reviews and shannen DOES in fact have a larger body of work to critique than Alyssa, who to date is known mostly for her box office bomb "Poison Ivy2" and the silly mindless soft core porn flick "Embrace of the Vampire" AND a rather forgettable role in "Fear" as the screaming side kick to Resse Witherspoon. Shannen is not a "second choice" pick for SEQUELS the way Alyssa has been and she did this to keep her career afloat during a time when she was dangerously close to being type cast. She did ANYTHING she could to stay on television including a "work out" video :haha: and the ONLY thing that saved her was a brief stint on Melrose Place and by THAT time Shannen Doherty was STILL possesed of a higher q rating. Let us not forget who was immediately sought out for the lead role of Prue on Charmed and who was (again) SECOND CHOICE CASTING for the part of Phoebe?

POST "Charmed", Shannen Doherty has received critical acclaim for movies like "The Rendering", "Another Day", and "The Battle of Mary Kay" (in which she acted along side Parker Posey and Shirley Mcclain AND managed to not be eclipsed by them). She'll be appearing on "The View" soon as well.

Shannen is a stronger actress, she's more dedicated to her craft than Alyssa.

Shannen's antics (such as drunk driving) are NO WORSE than any male counterpart of her's (Jason Priestly for example) post 90210; or others like Lizzie Grubman who literally PLOWED into a crowd of people with her car because of careless driving AND just because Alyssa has people who KEEP HER dirty happenings under wraps (mainly her mother, who will just about sue ANYONE who publishes news on Alyssa's dirty deeds) doesnt mean she's an angel.

To dismiss Shannen as a "non talented bad girl" whose most famous act was attacking Paris Hilton is rather hasty IMO (besides..she also punched Paris in the face LOL) . She may not be an oscar award winning actress, but neither is Heather Locklear and yet she's still highly favored among her fans and generates good press. Shannen DOES have some pull in the television industry and she is respected AND she's prooven that she's a talented small screen actress...can we say the same for Alyssa?

Arkaine

08-18-2006, 08:33 AM

firstly, while NEITHER actress has struck gold on the big screen, Shannen AT LEAST get's an "A" for effort for playing Kevin Smith's leading lady in "Mall Rats" in which she did receive generally good reviews and shannen DOES in fact have a larger body of work to critique than Alyssa, who to date is known mostly for her box office bomb "Poison Ivy2" and the silly mindless soft core porn flick "Embrace of the Vampire" AND a rather forgettable role in "Fear" as the screaming side kick to Resse Witherspoon. Shannen is not a "second choice" pick for SEQUELS the way Alyssa has been and she did this to keep her career afloat during a time when she was dangerously close to being type cast. She did ANYTHING she could to stay on television including a "work out" video :haha: and the ONLY thing that saved her was a brief stint on Melrose Place and by THAT time Shannen Doherty was STILL possesed of a higher q rating. Let us not forget who was immediately sought out for the lead role of Prue on Charmed and who was (again) SECOND CHOICE CASTING for the part of Phoebe?

Kevin Smith, I believe, is also by far an over-rated director/writer whose movies, aside from Dogma, are sub-par. Ben Affleck, for example, was tooted as being good in all of his movies and I disagree with that also. Shannen's movies weren't anything special, and she certainly, IMHO didn't bring anything to the roles which any B-rate actress could bring. :shrug:

I never said Alyssa had as an impressive resume as Shannen, however from my own observations, Shannen hasn't done anything to wow me or to seriously place her above Alyssa in the talent category.

And, as for the sheer volume of work.. it could be that Alyssa stays on jobs longer than Shannen does. Alyssa, to my knowledge, was never fired from an acting position so her "awayness" could have been a personal choice. Shannen, however, wanted to work but was forced off because of whatever reasons.

POST "Charmed", Shannen Doherty has received critical acclaim for movies like "The Rendering", "Another Day", and "The Battle of Mary Kay" (in which she acted along side Parker Posey and Shirley Mcclain AND managed to not be eclipsed by them). She'll be appearing on "The View" soon as well.

I have never heard of any of those movies, nor the acclaim she recieved for them. I'd have to see her acting alongside of Shirley McClain to truly know (for myself) if she has been eclipsed by her or not.

The View is a talk-show and not an acting job. Rosie O'Donnell has a place in the View and I sure as hell don't think she's a good actress.

Shannen is a stronger actress, she's more dedicated to her craft than Alyssa.

I don't think you can really say that. She has been fired from TWO shows now. Charmed, knowing the debacle, I could probably forgive, or believe that it was someone else's decision. But she also got fired from 90210. To me dedication to acting is playing a role, and doing it to be believable and upholding the integrety of the movie/show/play. Shannen was asked back for both 90210 and Charmed endings in order to give fans a throw-out. She denied them use even of her image.

Also, let's not forget her whole "Only 12 year old girls watch Charmed!" speech. That isn't the respect someone who is dedicated to acting should be giving to a paying job, in my humble opinion.

Shannen's antics (such as drunk driving) are NO WORSE than any male counterpart of her's (Jason Priestly for example) post 90210; or others like Lizzie Grubman who literally PLOWED into a crowd of people with her car because of careless driving AND just because Alyssa has people who KEEP HER dirty happenings under wraps (mainly her mother, who will just about sue ANYONE who publishes news on Alyssa's dirty deeds) doesnt mean she's an angel.

I so agree with the first part of this. I also have no respect for them two either and I would NEVER say what Shannen did was WORSE than either of them. I think the act is disgusting, whoever does it.

As for Alyssa.. you can only sue someone under certain conditions, such as things being false or unproven. Shannen, for example, tried to sue Star magazine for saying she had plastic surgury. I honestly can't believe that Lin Milano could sue someone unfairly and that Shannen couldn't or wouldn't.

To dismiss Shannen as a "non talented bad girl" whose most famous act was attacking Paris Hilton is rather hasty IMO (besides..she also punched Paris in the face LOL) . She may not be an oscar award winning actress, but neither is Heather Locklear and yet she's still highly favored among her fans and generates good press. Shannen DOES have some pull in the television industry and she is respected AND she's prooven that she's a talented small screen actress...can we say the same for Alyssa?

I don't dismiss Shannen. I don't have any particular dislike towards Shannen as a person. In interviews she seems to be fun but I still prefer Alyssa for my reasons stated above. I'm not a big fan (or even a fan) of either of them but I honestly think Alyssa's charity work really does eclipse any pull Shannen may have in the television industry which Alyssa doesn't have.

Jill Monroe

08-18-2006, 10:54 AM

the only reason why i mentioned "The View" was to point out that Shannen continues to get cast and asked into high profile TV projects where as Alyssa will probably fade into obscurity AGAIN now that Charmed is over. Despite her being fired from 90210, Aaron Spelling came to her and personally asked her to take the role of Prue on Charmed. Alyssa wasnt even considered initially until her lackluster role on Melrose Place (which was the only reason people began to take her seriously as an adult and even SHE said that).

I also forgot to mention Shannen's role as "Heather Duke" in the cult classic movie The Heathers yet another step above Alyssa when it comes to movie roles. (again , neither one has really hit gold on the big screen but at least Shannen's roles aren't remembered for how ridiculous they LOL)

Alyssa spent the better part of her time on Charmed (from season 3 till the end) being a sex pot and that's what got her over...NOT her acting and while its not saying all that much (when compared to other shows and other actresses) Shannen and Holly WERE the talent on that show. Alyssa was JUST eye candy.

Looks fade. when you have talent or when you're even able to generate buzz by way of your reputation...that will go farther

Alyssa may be more "in touch" with her fans and do charity work and that's a plus to her indeed, but when it comes to TALENT and who is worth watching on a show or in a TV movie, I believe shannen takes it.

Rampage

08-18-2006, 10:19 PM

I have to say that my distaste for Shannen is related to her general bad disposition. Here is a sampling of her bad deeds.

* In 1997, Doherty was sentenced to an anger-management class after she broke a car window with a beer bottle, during a fight she had outside a Los Angeles nightclub.
* She did not appear in the finale of 90120 because she was asking for a lot of money, and producers refused to pay her. Cast and crew members didn't mind, since she managed to piss off all of them before she left the show.
* She once reportedly needed a limo to be transported 700 feet because she didn't want to walk, and she was going to explode if her demands weren't met. She was 21, and as far as we know, not suffering from arthritis.
* E!'s Ted Casablanca reported that Shannen was furious that her "chest cavity" was not as nice as Alyssa Milano's, and demanded producers pay for implants.
* Her character on 90210 was so hated, it inspired the creation of an I Hate Brenda newsletter.
* She has a police restraining order against her after trying to run down a boyfriend with her car.
* She got into a famous fist fight outside an LA that led to her arrest (yes another club).
* Recently got busted for drunken driving (she joins Jason Priestley as the other member of the former 90210 Walsh family to get busted for DUI), and is going to court claiming that the police alcohol tests were wrong, she was set-up.

That is an above-average screw-up line, and cannot be equated to a conspiracy theiory that tabloids are somehow frightened by Alyssa'a lawyers when you say in the same statement that she essentially has no talent OR pull.

I can agree that Shannen is a better actress, although in the same way Yugos are better than Trabants. Neither of them is beating down Academy doors for nominations, and Milano at least seems to pretty much keep her nose clean and not ATTACK people while actually doing some charity work here and there. Shannen in my opinion is WORSE because she thinks she's some super-great actress and should get top billing when she is at best a decent one who should try working more and bitching less. Alyssa at least seems to realize that she is only mediocre and therefore has done other things for which she is known, like being NICE to people and appreciating the hell out of the jobs she gets.That is why I like her, besides the nice bod and prettier face compared to Shannen.

Jill Monroe

08-19-2006, 05:13 PM

but this is what gets me. No one talks about Jack Nicholson, Danny Bonaduce or any OTHER male celebrity that brawls, attacks people, spits in cameras or even SLAPS reporters (Burt Renyolds) or what not but Shannen Doherty is SUCH a villain for doing some of the same things?

I maintain that just because Alyssa "appears" to be innocent in the public eye, doesnt means she's squeaky clean. Shannen is more visible than Alyssa (for good OR bad), and she appears to be getting more work than Alyssa...and because shannen is an UNAPOLOGETIC "bad girl" (just like Madonna, Lil Kim and others that are well received) she's going to get scrutinized more than Alyssa.

and ultimately i DO think heather is correct about one thing. the men on this board (the ones that are straight) DO prefer Alyssa based on looks and can't even make a descision based on TALENT.because they dont know the body of work that EITHER actress has. the girls seem to know a little more about them in that regard.

if we were going to judge celebrities based on their behavior..then ALOT of people from all areas of the "industry" would get bad grades. there's no reason why Shannen should be so condemned when her male counterparts (on the same level and beyond) have done FAR WORSE.

Rampage

08-19-2006, 05:23 PM

It is not that ither celebs bad deeds are being ignored, it is that TWO SPECIFIC people are being compared. I could care less about how bad Bonaduce is when I am not discussing him. As for bringing up Burt Reynolds or Jack Nicholson, Shannen Doherty can't even SEE their level from where she is.
Which brings up my point. What most of the guys here are saying is that Doherty's repertiore, while above Milano's, is still lightweight, and definitely not far enough beyond to say that it should factor heavily in a compaison of the two. As for the guys here bringing up the looks, that was in part in response to some of the women here making that claim that Alyssa was not more attractive, which is about as ridiculous a claim as I have heard in a long time. Although I will admit Doherty is no dog, she is no Milano.
As for saying that Alyssa is not squeaky clean, that is probably true, but her rep is WAY better than Shannen's. It is not even close.

Jill Monroe

08-19-2006, 05:32 PM

so a person's "level" excuses their behavior? :haha: i brought that up because you and sebastian are highlighting Shannen's deeds as if they are ANY WORSE than some male celebrity (or females that i mentioned in another post above) antics. I think that in regards to THESE TWO that we were discussing, its OBVIOUS that Shannen beats Alyssa in the talent department and that's what MANY women (and a few men) in this thread were saying so others, (mainly men) were focusing on Alyssa's looks and personality and suggesting that Shannen's attitude and actions dminish her talent.

Shannen and Alyssa are SMALL SCREEN actresses. Shannen has FAR MORE big screen success than Alyssa and while she's no Meryl Streep, she's further along than Alyssa in both the big and small screen..and in the talent department THAT does count for something.

Is there something wrong with being a "small screen" actress? there are other small screen actresses who have little or no success on the big screen.

when it comes to "looks" if you watch the show Charmed during the first three seasons, "Prue" had the stylish, classy, contemporary fashion sense. "Piper" was classic and wore things that were easily mixed and matched and "Phoebe", well it was obvious that she was about ADVERTISING and her wardrobe showed it.

OUTSIDE of Charmed, Shannen also has a nice sense of style and Some magazines like "In Style" actually praised Shannen or her sense of style where as Alyssa has actually made Blackwell's WORST DRESSED list as well as MSN's "biggest fashion blunders" photo album section more than once. so again, who "looks" better is still debatable because you can have a moderately attractive woman who knows how to dress vs. a physically VERY attractive woman who dresses like a slut...who do you pick?

The bottom line for me is: the INITIAL post of this thread asked "whose got better talent and is more successfull." the answer is Shannen.

it was a MAN (Zorcrow) who first began to argue "who looks better" and even after the LOOKS came into it..the general vibe was still that Shannen BEATS Alyssa for talent and overall success.

Rampage

08-20-2006, 12:50 AM

In terms of acting alone, Shannen edges her, although that is simply not saying much. The roles she has had are still pretty damn lightweight.

As far as a person (which I think goes into it since part of being a public person is reputation), Alyssa has her beat up and down.

So the question is this: do you prefer the slightly greater talent but bad attitude and bad behavior, or do you prefer the lower talent level but generally more exemplary person?

But if we ignore all else and look at acting only, it is Shannen by a nose. To be honest, I repeat that neither of them are particularly talented in terms of acting.

Arkaine

08-21-2006, 03:24 PM

i brought that up because you and sebastian are highlighting Shannen's deeds as if they are ANY WORSE than some male celebrity (or females that i mentioned in another post above) antics.

No I wasn't. I even agreed with you in my apove post that they were no worse than anyone who you mentioned in your above post and highlighted that fact. However, what she publically has done is worse than Alyssa Milano, which is the comparison the first post makes.

If based on "dedication to the craft" (as you put it), I still can't agree Shannen is better considering that she had to be fired from two shows in the past and refused fans seeing her character, even in stock footage, in those two shows. Also the fact she called all her fans on Charmed "12 year old girls" really doesn't say much to me about her professionalism.

As for the movies and success.. I'll agree she has had more success in the sense of numbers than Alyssa Milano. However, Alyssa has been able to stay on shows in which she was contracted showing her to have, at least to me, an acceptable work ethic. Again, I'll say Shannen's success in this department is not too golden,

As for acting, I still can't compare Shannen to Alyssa in those terms. I actually do think they're equal. As for the argument that Shannen was chosen before Alyssa in Charmed actually, in my humble opinion, highlights Shannen's bad behaviour leading to her firing. WHY would you fire someone from a role which was orignally MEANT for her without good reason over a second choice.

Also, it must be noted that the choosing of Shannen as Prue over Alyssa as Phoebe does, in no way, emphasize that Shannen is a better actress -- just that she fit the role of Prue more than Alyssa fit the role of Phoebe (as she was originally meant to be). It would be like saying "Well Alyssa was chosen to be on Who's The Boss? and Shannen wasn't even considered.. obviously making Alyssa the better actress." -- The truth is, they don't vie for the same roles so that comparison can never be made.

Also, about Alyssa being the "slut" of the series. Phoebe wasn't any way more revealing than either Piper or Prue in the first three seasons. She even rarely dressed in a slutty maner in the later seasons -- no worse than Rose McGowan, for example (though whoever the stylist was on those later seasons needed to be shot!). In fact, I believe Rose/Paige was generally the more "sex-bombed" of the three sisters, especially in the later seasons when she was on her dating rampage.

mercury

05-11-2007, 01:32 AM

I'm female, age 33. I'm not a regular watcher of Charmed. I saw maybe 9 episodes (total) from when Shannon was still around, and maybe 2 (total) from the time since Rose McGowan's been on.

My opinion about Alyssa vs. Shannen. I agree that neither is anything all that special in acting, but that Shannen is slightly better. At least, she just has a more deep and emotive presence than Alyssa, some how, some way. Again, this is not to say Shannen is a "great actress." Far from it. I did watch 90210 very reguarly when Shannen was on. Some, not all, but some of her dramatic scenes made me want to laugh.

Alyssa has a prettier face. Shannen is pretty, but Alyssa is simply prettier. Alyssa almost always looks pretty in pictures. Shannen pics have to be at a good angle or something; she does sometimes look "not that great". But she is a pretty woman.

Their bodies are about equal, really.

Overall, even though Alyssa is prettier...as a woman I'd be more envious of Shannen. She's got more overall balance in "good qualities". You get the sense of her being smart, pretty, strong, sexy, even a little mysterious, deep, etc. With Alyssa, it's all (or mostly) concentrated in pretty.

jlenoconel

06-25-2007, 01:23 AM

I really like both actresses but I can't help but agree with what most people are saying on this topic. I believe that the reality of things on Charmed is that Shannen was the better actress out of her and Alyssa. I think the character of Phoebe had a good run seasons 1-3, but after that, especially beginning from season 5, her character was really bad. It would have been interesting to see how things would have turned out if Shannen had stayed and Alyssa had left... I think overall things would have probably been better. The thing that upsets me the most is that storyline wise, Phoebe was the character that was supposed to die. In season 2, on the episode Morality Bites I believe, the sisters traveled to the future where Phoebe was burnt at the stake for being evil. Seeing as her character succumbed to evil as the series progressed, you would have thought that Phoebe would have been the one to die, that's what I believe anyway. I agree also that Prue was the strongest of all the sisters, her character seemed to be going places more than the character of Phoebe's. I think things would have been more realistic and appropriate if Alyssa had left instead of Shannen, seeing as Prue's character still had a long way to go and Alyssa's character didn't. All I can say is TV is weird.

James

jlenoconel

07-19-2007, 03:51 PM

OK, here is a little reply for this thread if anyone cares to read it. I recently bought the first 4 seasons of Charmed on DVD and am in the process of watching season 1. I really love the beginnings of Charmed but I actually noticed a very large reason why Shannen was probably kicked off of the show. I noticed that Shannen dominated most of the storylines in the first season and I also noticed that her character was extremely condescending to the Phoebe and Piper. I know Prue was supposed to be the oldest sister and the leader of the Charmed Ones, but I can't help but think that Charmed was a bit of a vanity project for Shannen. Whoops, better go to college... catch up with everyone later!

jlenoconel

07-20-2007, 06:04 PM

I think that Shannen in some ways dominated the show. Her character was very bitchy, especially to Phoebe and I imagine that had to change. The sad thing is that Phoebe in some ways took the Prue role and became like the "lead' sister, so to speak. I think overall thats Shannen should have stayed on the show. I think that as season 3 came along that the sisters were all coming into their own and it was kinda unnecessary to change things... I understand why it happened though. Ah well, what can I say, women when they are put together just find it hard to get along.

James

Jill Monroe

07-20-2007, 06:17 PM

Ah well, what can I say, women when they are put together just find it hard to get along.

you should be carefull when making generalized statements about women on a message board that is PREDOMINANTLY women.

and in the future, do not do double/tripple posts. simply go BACK and use the edit function on your last post if you have something to add and include something like "ETA" (edited to add) and then add on your additional thoughts.

thanks for participating on one of our ongoing debates :)

jlenoconel

07-28-2007, 10:19 PM

thanks for the lovely little reply... so kind! :mad:

Archon

11-04-2007, 07:52 PM

No in depth analysis here, but Alyssa Milano is way better look.

Cat-Scratch

05-02-2008, 06:57 PM

No in depth analysis here, but Alyssa Milano is way better look.

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Mind you, Ms Doherty was nice to look at at one point in time.

Flashforward

05-03-2008, 01:23 AM

I used to have an infatuation with Alyssa Milano when I was young. She was so hot on those early episodes of "Who's the Boss," especially because she's around the same age as me, I think.

Fake Shemp

09-03-2009, 05:21 PM

I don't like Shannen in any way shape or form, and Milano strikes me as a bit "horsey" but she was pretty cute when she was in 'My Name Is Earl'

Jill Monroe

09-03-2009, 05:22 PM

I don't like Shannen in any way shape or form, and Milano strikes me as a bit "horsey" but she was pretty cute when she was in 'My Name Is Earl'

LOL @ "Horsey" :haha:

LizzieRainbow

09-03-2009, 05:39 PM

Jill Monroe

09-03-2009, 05:42 PM

I dunno why but i always had a bit of a hate for Shannon. I like Alyssa Milano and i love her character of Phoebe. I think i mainly like her character for the fact that she is a journalist and that is the career i am trying to break into.
But yeah i like Charmed so much better in the later seasons where Paige was there instead of Prue, Prue's character annoyed me how she always tried to be the "mother" of the sisters, Paige made them all look like sisters not with one acting as the mother.

Not trying to change your mind or anything, but just on this part here...isnt isnt part of the reason why Prue took the maternal role was because she was the eldest (and strongest) sister? their mother was killed by a demon and so it feel to Grams (and Prue ) to watch out for the sisters. Phoebe prooved time and again she would betray her sistsers...over a MAN no less. Paige was too often dismissed and while she was easily more powerfull than Phoebe, she was often made to look less capable or competent than Phoebe which totally sucked! lol

LizzieRainbow

09-03-2009, 05:47 PM

Not trying to change your mind or anything, but just on this part here...isnt isnt part of the reason why Prue took the maternal role was because she was the eldest (and strongest) sister? their mother was killed by a demon and so it feel to Grams (and Prue ) to watch out for the sisters. Phoebe prooved time and again she would betray her sistsers...over a MAN no less. Paige was too often dismissed and while she was easily more powerfull than Phoebe, she was often made to look less capable or competent than Phoebe which totally sucked! lol

Oh i know, but i just would ahve preferred to see Prue's character as more of a sister. Yes i know Phoebe was more likely to betray her sisters for men but i still for some reason preferred her to Prue. In all honesty Piper is my fave sister but out of Prue and Phoebe i still prefer phoebe :)

Jill Monroe

09-03-2009, 05:51 PM

Oh i know, but i just would ahve preferred to see Prue's character as more of a sister. Yes i know Phoebe was more likely to betray her sisters for men but i still for some reason preferred her to Prue. In all honesty Piper is my fave sister but out of Prue and Phoebe i still prefer phoebe :)

Piper...yes, she was a wonderfull character, but despite taking Prue's role after Prue's death, the show was obviously written to make it seem that PHOEBE was the central sister. I didnt like that. Piper didnt always get the respect or acknowledgement she deserved and that was really bad writing...all to make Phoebe look like she was so important when in reality she was the weakest sister. See, I liked Phoebe in seasons 1, 2 and some of 3 (mainly before Cole crept up into the central plot) but after that? Phoebe went down the toilet for me and as for an actress? The last thing i saw that Alyssa did that was TRULY worthwhile was "Wisegirl" from just a couple years back.

but back to Piper, Holly Marie Combs played the hell out of her, even in the worst episodes, piper was still solid. I would say Prue and Piper were my top 2

LizzieRainbow

09-03-2009, 05:56 PM

Piper didnt always get the respect or acknowledgement she deserved and that was really bad writing...

Yes! Completely! Piper was the best and did deffinatly deserve to be acknowledged more! Holly Marie is a brilliant actress :xyxthumbs:

Fake Shemp

09-03-2009, 05:57 PM

Piper is my fav out of the original 3 as well. (but as you know Lizzie i was a Paige fan, and a fan of counting how many changes of wardrobe she had in an episode)

I get the whole, stepping into the role of mother, being the eldest but something never clicked with me and her... she knows it, through my psychic powers.

Angels baby101

09-04-2009, 09:19 AM

Well if we're talking about charmed I'd say Holly Marie Combs is way better then both but... if we're just talking about these two I gotta say Alyssa I dunno i just never much liked Shannen much

clemxens

09-04-2009, 06:53 PM

Shannen Doherty ALL THE WAY! Milano, IMO, couldn't act to save her life.

Jacob Black

09-07-2009, 04:46 AM

When it came to Charmed, my opinions always fluctuated based on the seasons. In Season One I really liked Prue.. she was the fastest learner, the most aggressive, I enjoyed her relationship with Andy, and I loved her job. Then in Season Two I liked Phoebe, she seemed to use her powers in a better way and just seemed funnier, like they we were getting to know the character better... and Piper.. has never been my favorite, I loved her powers but I hated her character, timid in the first seasons and poorly written since season five. I REALLY liked Paige in season four. She was smart and quirky and enjoyable but after that it seemed like they didn't know what to do with her.

When it comes to Shannen vs. Alyssa.. I usually enjoy Shannen's roles than Alyssa's. Shannen plays strong bitchy characters that make you want to watch a show and she always stirs up a buzz and some trouble wherever she goes which is entertaining, though I think Alyssa is gorgeous (minus her INCREDIBLY hairy forearms, seriously look at clips of Charmed and Melrose Place, it's RIDICULOUS!) And I think I just remember Shannen better in things..

Heathers, 90210, Charmed and that one show where she played Alex? It was about a hotel in Hawaii or some shit, it was short lived but I did enjoy her on it lol.

Alyssa is like.. Who's the Boss, a horrible stint on Melrose Place and Charmed. Since then I haven't seen or heard much from her.

Holly Marie Combs is even MORE forgettable..

So I guess.. I have to vote for Shannen!

Fake Shemp

09-08-2009, 07:02 AM

.... I have an awful memory and i remember Holly

Jacob Black

09-08-2009, 02:52 PM

Jill Monroe

09-08-2009, 03:36 PM

You remember her outside of Charmed? Because I sure as hell don't. I remember Picket Fences but NOT many people do. She is known only for Charmed. I meant to say that at least Alyssa and Shannen have careers outside of Charmed.

to Holly's credit, i do remember her in Picket Fences, specifically the episode where she "experimented" with bi sexuality LOL! I also remember "Our mother's murder" , yes it was a small screen film but many of famous faces like Heather Locklear (who is well respected beyond the small screen) are mainstays in TV shows and TV movies. I also remember her non speaking (or at most one word) and uncredited role in Ocean's 11. back in the day, alot of small screen actors/actresses would take these kinds of roles in select films just to get their face out there.

Holly and Shannen are far better actresses than Alyssa (as was mentioned earlier on in the thread) it should be noted that Alyssa wasnt even first choice casting for Charmed while Holly , who went along with Shannen to her read for Charmed, HAD something of a following and positive rep for her few but meaty roles on the small screen.

any true fan of either of these actresses would be able to find their body of work BUT at the same time, when you do that, you come to see that Alyssa has largely GOTTEN OVER on her LOOKS and not her talent (which Shannen and Holly both have more of). Had she not stayed on Charmed, she would have faded into oblivion, where as Shannen has not despite leaving charmed after 3 successfull seasons (and owning a piece of the show no less).