RANTING and RAVING part 1!

[Foxfire]

I know we ALL have things in our life that bug the crap out of us! Start throwing it out here, get the anger off the chest. :fdevil:


I HATE slow ass drivers who go 20 mph when the speed limit is 45 mph. :mad: Or when drivers cut me off, oh hell no! :eek:

When people lie to me, OOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! I f*cking hate that shit! Why do people need to lie? Why can't they keep it real and just tell me. I don't understand at all.

FAKE people who pretend to role play and then talk shit about you behind your back in a chat. What the f*ck is up with that? I know that some people think they have talent when in fact they suck. :sure:

I also detest when people are huge flakes, who will BELIEVE the first "person" of whom they think they can trust. You dumb whore, what the hell! :mad:

And I really really HATE when my dad tries to argue with me that he's right. lol, when you know he doesn't make sense lol.

[Jessica Hamby]

I ALSO HATE slow drivers. What the fuck? you running out of gas? Do you not know how to put the car (http://69.42.87.196/cgi-bin/v40/ezlclk.fcgi?id=6741) into second gear? :eek:

I hate obnoxious drivers also. Those kind who act like you are in their way, as if you are driving on THEIR road? [you should know I tend to speed, about five miles over the limit. I STILL have people buzz by me and cut me off] I had this PUNKASS idiot the other day that COULD have killed someone. Imagine a two way, two lane road. an impatient driver is stuck behind someone who surely is going too slow for obnoxious driver's taste. Obnoxious driver wants to pass, but there is oncoming traffic in other lane right up the road. [oncoming traffic is a compact car and me, in a dodge ram 1500] the RETARD passes anyway, and the compact car moves over onto the shoulder to make way. WELL..... hehe.... I'm driving a big fuckin tank of a pickup, and excuse the HELL outta me if I take up my entire lane. I don't move. Call me foolish, but I had the right of way and all fault would have been entirely on him. You think I'm moving (http://69.42.87.196/cgi-bin/v40/ezlclk.fcgi?id=7017) over so he can continue being an inconsiderate arruso? HELL fucking no. Well, the guy swerves back over into his lane [in enough time, of course, i wouldn't put myself into anything i deemed "too" dangerous.] I'm sure he will make sure he has plenty of time before he makes his next pass.... there's just something haunting about the idea of a fullsize pickup going sixty, nearly mowing you over because you had to pull a stupid stunt like that. what if I hadn't been paying attention? better yet, what if the driver in front of me hadnt been paying attention? they would have SURELY been hit as they narrowly missed him in the first place. fucking asshole. :mad:

People who derive pleasure from annoying the hell out of someone else. Get a less abrasive hobby, man, before i strip your face. :sure:

people who HAVE to be right, ALL the time, and are closed to any kind of disscussion or reason. People who cannot possibly accept the fact that they might be wrong or that someone else might ALSO be right.
*grits teeth* WTF?!

[Pam De Beaufort]

I hate being cold. I'm always cold. Even when I am in 80 degree whether, I always have cold hands and it bugs the shit out of me. I just for once, would like to be toasty warm. lol. Yeah it might sound strange...but it's annoying as hell.

I hate this little bitch who was a two timing whore that used me for like 4 months. I would love to just love to tear her a new ass whole, I swear. She's so UGH. I hope she fails in life and ends up a crach whore on the streets, that slut.

Well, enough of that. :D I feel better.

[Jill Monroe]

I Hate Men! I Hate Them!!


I Hate Chauvanistic, Narrow Minded, Arrogant, Pompous, Self Centerd Blow Hard Men!

Bastards!

Sons Of Bitches!

Thoughtless Blockheads!

[Dapper Dan]

I Hate Men! I Hate Them!!


I Hate Chauvanistic, Narrow Minded, Arrogant, Pompous, Self Centerd Blow Hard Men!

Bastards!

Sons Of Bitches!

Thoughtless Blockheads!


:worry: :confused: :eek: :eek2: :shock: :eek1:

<hands Farrah an inhaler and a brown paper bag>

BREATH!

[Jessica Hamby]

*wheels one of those man-shaped boxing trainers up to Farrah*

Let 'er rip. :)

I hate BADLY written movies. I feel wronged, especially when I have high expectations for the film.

[Jacob Black]

^^^ I Hate Lexi....

Nah Just Kidding lol... I thought this was the "Things I LOVE" thread lmao...

Seriously though... I hate Stereotypes.. they are the worst things in the world.. can't everyone just be who they want without being classified as anything lol?

[Foxfire]

I fucking HATE fake and phony people! Pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee argh get a clue people! I don't like you yet they talk to you like you are best buds or some shit. They ain't gonna fly with this Irish gal, no no no! :mad: There's probably a reason why I don't talk to you.

Fucking lazy ass people too, what the hell? Move your fat ass and do something already. Why do I need to do ALL of the work.

People who are timid, grow some courage already! WTF?? :stupid: I don't understand people at all sometimes.

Hypocrites, "you need to do this." Really?? Well, where the fuck were you sweet cheeks? Jesus! Argggghhhhhhhhhhhhhh I'm gonna hit the bottle, yeah that's right! I need a drink its either that or Farrah shares her meds LOL! j/k I need to get off here before I explode. :nod:

[Foxfire]

It humors me that people view me as a threat. I've gotten a history for being banned, I'm notorious and its not something I'm proud of. However, former friends need to get over it. Just the other day, Brandon supplied me a link to a website to view the "generations of war" but apparently a certain Admin had banned my address. What provokes me is the fact she never bothered to listen to my story. I think in the end, it'll always bug me.

What really ignites my fire are the leaders in that rpg, LOL, its a joke! Seriously, I've seen and role played with a lot of people and the leaders are pathetic. Am I cocky and arrogant? Sometimes, but there's obviously a reason why they feel to being back my sister's original game to flourish their DEAD board. Don't get me wrong, Jay is a mastermind with RPG's but the other Admin is a flake. Most of the staff are idiots. And since I can't openly confront them (they have me blocked) I'll express how I feel here. After all I do have a right on this board.

I already know the RPG will fail, both Brandon and I fully agree to it. They don't have the flavor or the drama we the originals brought to it. Anything we ever role played, people have copied and miss Spellbinder is the most famous example to date.

That's another dislike of mine, why do people continue to copy "Darkchilde" and her keen fashion sense. Are people that uncreative they must emulate what they read. "Icy and cold,""long, flawless legs," "perky firm breasts," its always the same. I'm very opinionated and everyone knows it, not only that but I'm blunt. Farrah made people create their characters with such style and fierceness. But get creative people, argh! Everything is so drawn out and repetitive. :mad: :stupid:

Role Plays are old too, same old thing. Get some creativity here people! This board and the role players are DIFFERENT! And I like that, not only is it created by the best RPG Mastrix but added by the most talented banner/schemers plus the VIP role players.

I've been insulted about my role playing in private chat rooms but little pathetic immature 14 year olds. Give me a break, they are just children, who are they? All they do is cyber in the rpg, lol. I admit I've role played adult scenes but it never phases me. I think the role players today who are young think they are the shit. And they are the shit, just not in the positive manner. ;)

[Jessica Hamby]

OT: Love your new banner heat :D :tup:

But YEAH.... i agree with you a LOT there. I dont want to go on this long post repeating everything you just said.... so lol, yeah, i agree with a lot of that. They want me to help lead.... but I'm having a hard time staying interested.... :eek3:

and i think young punks who think they are the shit should go.... jump off a cliff together. :D lol ;)

[Foxfire]

Thank you, Sam made it for me. She's brilliant! I love the colors and the pictures. ;) :D I thanked her already for it.

Sebastian is a wonderful character but he's best with Mystic. LOL! :angel: :whistle: Well, as long as we have you here its all good. :D I do miss playing Elektra, she was a fun character. :nod:

[Jacob Black]

I completely agree.. the original incarnation of the game Charmed: Generations turned around our community of online RPG.. It was the MOST successful RPG game ever.. I am sorry but the amount of times it has been copied and emulated has been far greater than that of the FGB and ADA ever were..

The Original Leaders and Characters that made the game great were the MASTERS OF EVIL. Let's not kid ourselves folks.. MoE WAS the Game..

It was Darkchilde, Brenthon, Persephone, Alessandra, Elektra, Titania and Enchantrah as the Original BAD ASSES of the game, we were what was copied and used over and over again..

We had Darkchilde, a female character of which who could NEVER be emulated or copied in a true form.. she set the standard for all bitches in the RPG World..

Then there was Brenthon, perhaps the most mysterious member of the MoE. Not many people knew his past but when he came to the battlefield, he killed and tortured. I was one of the LAST people who WORKED MY WAY UP to get to where I was...

Persephone, the Earthly and ORIGINAL Goddess of the Boards. Her out of control powers and dominion over the EARTH made her a DEADLY combination of Beauty and Power.. how many goddesses are on the boards now? MILLIONS!

Then there was the Mighty Elektra Paris Calvin. Her tactical and physical fights were LEGEND in MoE and Heather was the only person to EVER defeat Brenthon in the MoE when she was Betrayal. Heather was always a great physical fighter and she was a mentor to many in the MoE.

Then there is the Mighty Christy Zane Titania. Now she was a bitch to be reckoned with. Her rage and fierce nature made her noticed by the top members of both covens. She killed in the battlefield and her character bitch slapped just about everyone in MoE. She was one of the few who worked her way up to her status in the MoE and deserved EVERYTHING she got...

Then maybe not the ORIGINAL Siren, but the most kick Ass Siren in the entire of MoE. Melody was a fierce fighter and was always coming up with creative ways of killing her prey and she created the Karaoke Night Club theme ORIGINALLY! Let's not forget the Triple Six Lounge people!!!!

^^^ Those were the true Role Players.. The Best of the Best.. maybe copied but never truly captured and without THAT spirit and without THAT fight.. the game will NEVER be the same....

We have dumbass people like IRENE and TRENT at the helm of this game I mean come on! Irene has always been more focused on hanging out in a club than actually RPing! She got her ass beat in training by a Level 3... AFTER she became a Dire Wraith and Trent was always a disaster! He was just good at kicking ass...

The Game will go down in Flames and hopefully so will everyone involved.. it may sound bitter, but hey...whatever lol.

[Jill Monroe]

what am i missing? has the retread version of "TRoW" been resurrected on that other board? has some one attempted to << snicker>> play "Darkchilde"?

when it comes to board rpgs as it were...the whole "board wide battle good/evil" bit is TIRED! when Charmed:Generations/GoW was released...it was hot, stylish, ground breaking. What that game has become SINCE my departure as Mastrix ...i couldnt begin to comment on. But i WILL say its not the fault of Jay. HE mentored ME in board rpgs...and HIS skill, presentation and ideas always come off fresh and make you want to try them.......but his "co-admin" is a childish, attention seeking flake. People may not remember how she used to get her ass whipped DAILY in training sessions in MoE until I began training her personally both in areas of battle AND personal style.

Honestly...i nurtured ALOT of the supposed "great rp'ers" on that board and various others. many of them were apart of MoE...and i gladly worked with them and helped them find their niche...now some of those SAME people who bad mouthed "Darkchilde" and ME...are same ones rushing to balatantly copy "her"/me. its the ultimate flattery....jealousy produces emulations.

even IF they use "Darkchilde" or "Illustra" (which would be flat out disrespectful and totally wrong) itll be QUITE obvious to see the lackluster presentation behind them as the portrayed by the cheap copiers.

Myself, Heather, Sam, Brandon, Lexi, CJ(Morpheus- the physically strongest male in MoE) , Meghan AND Jay were the best of the ORIGINAL MoE....and ORIGINAL GoW.

[Holly Golightly]

Things I hate...let's start with people who don't use turn signals during DC rushhour and just randomly cut you off and then wave:hi: , like I'm their best friend. That drives me up the bloody wall, I'm not a psychic I'm special but not that special. While on this rant about drivers I hate people who tailgate you to the point that when you look in your sideview mirrors you can't see them, especially when you can't do anything about...if there is a car next to you and one in front you're stuck, and in my case I start thinking about hitting my brakes and getting a new car.
Another think I hate: MEN! I hate their everything I wish for once a guy could deal with everything a woman goes through. I especially hate lying f***ing a$$hole men who just want one thing and then when they realize it ain't gonna happen they just drop you off. Or even worse is when they say it was all a mistake, how would they feel if I said their being born was a mistake??? What's makes this all the worse is timing, everytime this has happened to be i've either had my aunt flow in town or she's two days away...grrrr. Also the week before and after Feb. 14 there should be a bloody law saying that you can't f*** a girl over during that time especially if you have already made V-day plans with her. GRRRRR:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
Ahhh, all better now

[Jacob Black]

I seriously think we should just recreate the game HERE lol... bring it back to Charmed: Generations or something lol... That would be fun!

[Jill Monroe]

I seriously think we should just recreate the game HERE lol... bring it back to Charmed: Generations or something lol... That would be fun!

i would think better to do a "Spin off" involving those select characters....we are OVER the whole "battle rpg" thing..its tired. let all these other boards spawn them to the point of retread. lol


but as for true RANTING:

i cant stand IDIOTS on the road in rainy weather..and they practically DRIVE with their BRAKES! or people who STOP in the middle of a turn and almost cause you to slam into their rear end. :mad:

[Foxfire]

I'd love to see a REAL reunion with the original and true members of MOE! Mainly the people Brandon named. And what I really disliked was Irene and how she SHUT the thread down after DC revealed Christy and Julian in the buff. I was all set to post to that, lol. I thought the ending to it was unreal. :sure: :igitt:

[Jessica Hamby]

I KNOW! I could have REALLY had fun with that, LMAO.

I HATE people who drive like they are still LEARNING. Its one thing to actually BE still learning.... but the people who act like they dont know the rules of the road and have never heard of "COURTESY" are the ones that I just want to RAM off the road, lol. Its like "HELLO, mind if I use the road TOO here, jerk?"

[Ikaris]

It's a really sad thing for me to have found out that people I considered friends feel the need to trash my game. For those of you who had tried it out and left, I had wished you nothing but the best in whatever you were headed to and I made sure that people weren't bashing any of you. I had far more respect for all of you than that.

For people who for the most part were supposed to be my friends, you feel awfully free to trash what I have built in direct conflict with your supposed zero tolerance policy on defamation. I have not and would not talk trash about anything you have created here. It's beneath me and I would have thought the same about all of you but obviously I was mistaken.

Yes, TRoW is reopening on Reign, its certainly no secret. TRoW was given to Irene and I to do with as we chose when Farrah no longer had the time or interest in continuing the game. We chose to close it for a time and then to reopen it with some changes made to it. No-one and I do mean NO-ONE is stealing anyone's characters nor possessions. That would be disrespectful and I would bounce whoever tried's happy ass out of the game.

Farrah, Lexi and Heather, the three of you really have hurt my heart to an unimagined level, especially Farrah and Lexi. I know that we'd grown apart Heather but I certainly wished you only the best in things. To find out that you were all more than happy to trash my work but still act like we were bosom buddies is just a betrayal on an unimagined level. I'm not quite sure why Brandon would feel the need to jump on the bandwagon especially since he was only rarely on Reign to begin with and he and I haven't spoken in well over a year besides.

If the intention was simply to be hateful and to hurt other people, then I congratulate you all because it did. Irene could really care less but you managed to stick the knife deeply into my back. Thanks ever so much. Its always good to have "friends".

I am so disappointed in everyone.....


Jay

[Jill Monroe]

jay,

this is just too much. dont act like what is being said here is a direct attack against you OR YOUR board. the fact of the matter is, YOUR board's credibility is stunted by the presence of that pathetic COW of a co-admin that you have.

She and her brain dead co horts..who think they are so grand and so deft at rping have dilluted YOUR game...spending more time "CYBERING" each other in the clubs than actually leading their coven or battling in the Cosmic Chaos (the name i GAVE her to rename the forum mind you).

I left your game because i was sick of HER..and the fact that the members were LAZY as hell...didnt want to train...and suddenly she was making these changes that i felt were leaving me in the lurch...it might have seemed selfish..but you know what? i was good to her in GoW....when NO one took her seriously and her character was getting her ass whipped all over the arena...i helped her character take shape...as i did some of those same holier than though hypocrates that now are so quick to trash me...and forever have my name in their little mouths. :rolleyes:

Ive known you WAY longer than ANY of those fools...and we started off at odds with each other and became close friends. we've talked about things that id NEVER discuss with most folks. For you to take the things i said about your board like THIS is unfair. my rant is about the fact that i am RESENTFULL of the way that woman just...completely minimized me and disrespected me both in RoTZ and in TROW's wedding.. i MADE that game..and if not for me...you wouldnt HAVE it to "revamp" in the first place. I dont CARE what any of those self righteous twits think of me. the fact of the matter is..NONE of them ever had the balls to stand up to me themselves...and when i came on that board..i NEVER felt welcomed...except by YOU, Heather and Lexi. It was OBVIOUS people had their little feelings hurt about my being their and what not.

YOUR board..the premise, the game..those were all fantastic things and you KNOW that felt ..because i told you so and i meant it. I LEFT quickly and quietly because i couldnt no longer deal with that MASSIVELY INCOMPETENT WOMAN that you have on your staff.

My comments..i stand by them...because i know what i meant..and we've talked recently..and im SURPRISED that you dont see what im saying...but to make sure there is no room for any more guessing....im going on record now..that i NEVER shouldve let that sinister slag become a DW..i NEVER shouldve left the game to her....because while some people here may not want to admit it..its NO SECRET that alot of folks fault HER with ruining the game during its last incarnation. Nobody blames you..no body has bad mouthed you HERE or anywhere else...nobody disreespect you..its that BITCH that you have by your side. She cant rpg, she cant lead...she's USELESS..and she's dragging your board down.

Yes..i AM resentful about TRoW reopening on RoTZ . I didnt think i would be..but i AM. I feel like SHE disrespected me....and its just not sitting well with me at all. You were one of my main inspirations behind the original MoE and GoW...leaving the game in YOUR hands ...that was an obvious and logical choice. The problem is HER...and im NOT the only one who feels that way..though of course i may be the only one bold enough to post it.

I've known you WAY longer than she has Jay......dont let this bullshit cause you to think you dont know me...and dont LET HER influence your thinking.

[Jacob Black]

Jay, I want to make it clear.. I have absolutely no problem with you and if it was JUST you reopening TRoW then I would have no problem and I would most likely join. The fact is that the game was given to your other half as well and when that happened things just went crazy.. I do apologize that I wasn't there for the end of it.. but I helped with a lot of the beginning of that game.

I never really liked Irene and Farrah can tell you I was one of the people who didn't take her seriously, and I still don't. It just bothers me that you ended the game and it is over and done with and then reopening it as the same game when it's not. The Masters of Evil and the Guardians of Light no longer exist because the people who put the blood, sweat and tears into the original game in the first place are gone.. that is the only thing that urks me..

So I am sorry if I offended you Jay, it wasn't my attention. I think you are awesome and if you will look at any of the posts here, everyone mentions that they have no problem with you, and that they have a problem with your partner.

[Foxfire]

Well, I would say its a pleasure to see you once more Jay, however this reunion I'm afraid is bittersweet. And you're more then welcome to express yourself here just as I have done.

Ask anyone who knows me especially Farrah and she will tell you I'm openly blunt. However, your post was over dramatic and to accuse me of "stabbing" you in the back is ridiculous. I have NEVER bad mouthed you in anyway, I have many people to validate my claim. And as I wrote in my posts, I didn't have a problem with you or your game, it was IRENE! I happened to go to the link and I see my address is banned, I ask you why? What are my crimes of that board? And it takes two Admin. I thought to ban an address, do you go along with this "ban" of my name as well?

As far as talking with you, that's false. We haven't talked since ROTZ. Ever since I left, I hadn't heard anything from you. I left to support my sister, Farrah plus I didn't enjoy my creativity being limited, my Underworld post for Mystic. I will not be censored in anyway for my character and how I wish to reveal her past.

So, please do not come in here pointing fingers at me, when I never disrespected you in anyway and if I have, I apologize. Was I disrespecting Irene? Yes, why do you ask? Because she immediately believed false information that was "rumored" about me hating her. I never said anything about Irene until she became a bitch to me. Yes, there was that time we butted heads at After-darkness but I grew because of it.

I say to you now, CONFRONT me, you name the messenger and we will privately discuss this. And if you're not then we can continue to go round for round here. But what you're claiming about me or Farrah or anybody else is false.

I give you credit for coming here and posting you're emotions. It takes a lot of guts and courage to do that, especially to me. I've always said to my friends, my lover, and my family, TELL me how you feel, good or bad.

But in the end, I've done nothing wrong or said anything negative to you or the work you have created. Its Irene in MY opinion who has poisoned your work. You hardly know me but if you're unsure ask Farrah....Lexi...those two have known me on various role play games and what I'm like.

[Jill Monroe]

actually Heather, it was Jay who did the banning, but it was probably HEARTILY endorsed by Irene. I havent been back to that board SINCE i left, so it doesnt matter to me either way. But I'm going on record now to say this:

Jay, for you to ban Lexi, Brandon and Heather from your board for comments that were made on a completely different board is just wrong. Thats the sort of thing I WOULD expect from Irene or her other cohorts(trent, dylan, etc) but not you. This is the same thing that those childish twits from the old CB (currently on C:TP) would do. But You were always someone who saw clearly and didnt act in this way.

Its your board, and you'll do whatever you want. It doesnt effect me but I am speaking out on behalf of those that it does effect because that was unfair.

you took these remarks too personally and way out of context. I tried to tell you what was what via PM and on MSN last night but you brushed me off.

I stand by my statements because I know what my intent behind them was and if you were unclear..then you shouldve confronted me. its not like you've had a problem coming straight to me about situations before.

Irene is a downgrade to your board and whether anyone else agrees with me or not..thats how i feel. YOU may have created the premise of the board but She hogs alot of credit for the way things are in the RoTZ game...it was quite evident in her presentation in various areas of the game and she's a terrible leader... She ruined TRoW (along with Trent) and while i understand that YOU may have been behind the revamp of it...that doesnt take away the fact that she disrespected me with her actions in regards to TRoW's "Wedding storyline". If it werent for me..she wouldnt have HAD the game to do that shit in the first place.

I realize you have a friendship with her, but i maintain that i knew you first..and longer. we have history together and I deserve more than to be accused by you and then for you to just close the book on a judgement youve made in error.

[Jessica Hamby]

I tried to post here last night.... but the server (http://69.42.87.196/cgi-bin/v40/ezlclk.fcgi?id=7055) was down... so now I'll try to remember what all i typed.... as along with Farrah... I felt like you brushed me off last night.... and i'm not sure on whether or not we'll even be able to get a HOLD of you today.

You're RIGHT Jay... being hateful and trashing and sniping behind your back are terrible things to do, and they ARE all beneath me.... just like you said. for you to say that to me... I thought perhaps you knew I was of better caliber. I also assumed you knew that I respected you... and admired you since the day Farrah brought you to MoE. I assumed incorrectly, I see. I thought you would KNOW I would never "trash" you, least of all behind your back... but I suppose I should have made just exactly how highly i regard you clear a long time ago. I've apologized twice already for hurting you... that wasn't at all what I'd intended... I wasn't even talking about you... hell, i wasn't even talking about your board OR your game, ROTZ. I was TALKING about RoW, but I should have made that clear as well. I'm not apologizing anymore.... this is draw-a-line-in-the-sand time. What YOU did.... banning me from your board without even giving me a chance to talk to you... that was SPITEFUL and beneath YOU, Jay. I must admit... I was shocked when you said it was you...beyond words. The actual BANNING part i can handle... I hadn't been very active lately and probably wouldn't have known for DAYS if Farrah hadn't said anything to me... but the idea that YOU were behind it... and the way it was done... vindictive and hostile... i expect more rational behaviour from a person of your merit. I dont appreciate being turned on so quickly, without even a chance to defend myself.

I can't go round and round on this anymore... its unfair and painful for BOTH of us... i can't bear it. I've apologized, I've made a couple of attempts to restore your faith in me... theres nothing more i can do. Reconcile or shut me out, whatever you decide, its your choice and ill respect it. I just wanted you to know that I never meant to hurt you.... and that I grew as an RPer and as a writer working with you... thank you for that. Ikaris will ALWAYS be my favorite shadow demon. :mistake:

~Lexi

[Nymph]

Ok behalf of Jay who I am currently on the phone. I can verify that he has been working the night shift and that when he was online he was not able to contact either of you. Lexi, he says that he will get a hold of you so that you both can talk this out.

*Sarai

[Jill Monroe]

On behalf of this board, we do not need "spokespersons", "spies" or "secretaries". I believe Jay has an account on here and can speak for himself,
Aldea.

If he wants to contact Lexi or anyone else he can reach them via PM , messenger etc.

and with that..I am now CLOSING this thread.